Regarding MTW II & my Sicily Campaign

**hellas1** · 11-29-2006, 09:17

Hey folks,

I can't wait for patches to show up for this game ASAP. First Off.
Some AI and other stuff is just WRONG. Period.

Second, I just finished my campaign as Sicily on Medium Difficulty and was in a stalemate again. I say "again" because I played as the Byz. Empire and was in another stalemate and I also played as Scotland, same situation.

One funny incident, As Sicliy I sacked Rome and was excommunicated.
At first I had the Pope's army figure on the campaign map after me, then after beating him down like a chump, I had the actually Pope or Popes fight against me with a Pope figure on the campaign map. The Popes got beat down too!

One thing that stinks is that the L.E. map I got has NO city names on it and I have to add them to the map vai this forum's links!

hellas1- I wish the Papal States could be eradicated in game......

**d1ng0d0g** · 11-29-2006, 09:35

Stalemate as in the AI is too tough for you ?

Dingo

**BigTex** · 11-29-2006, 10:27

Originally Posted by hellas1

Second, I just finished my campaign as Sicily on Medium Difficulty and was in a stalemate again. I say "again" because I played as the Byz. Empire and was in another stalemate and I also played as Scotland, same situation.

Maybe try an easier setting if they turn into stalemates. Though I hardly see how anything can be a stalemate, eventually somethings got to give.

Pope can be killed but you can't kill off the papacy, they'll just migrate to another province. Quite a good thing really. I certainly wouldnt want to see a killable papacy, unless all the catholic factions are dead.

**pevergreen** · 11-29-2006, 11:38

Originally Posted by BigTex

Maybe try an easier setting if they turn into stalemates. Though I hardly see how anything can be a stalemate, eventually somethings got to give.

Pope can be killed but you can't kill off the papacy, they'll just migrate to another province. Quite a good thing really. I certainly wouldnt want to see a killable papacy, unless all the catholic factions are dead.

I see an idea for a mod!

**Quin** · 11-29-2006, 12:11

Anyone played a game as a muslim faction and killed all crhistian factions? I really wonder waht happens with pope in that case...

**KARTLOS** · 11-29-2006, 12:19

what do you mean you are in a stalemate?

quin if you wiped out all catholic factions you wouldnt know what happened to the pope - as a non catholic faction you have very little interaction with him. it would be surprising if you heard of a crusade again though

**Kobal2fr** · 11-29-2006, 16:03

By stalemate he means that although he can't lose, he can't win either. That is to say, with his forces/economy/neighbours the way they are, if he moves one way he opens himself on the other side.