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    Default Looking for something

    I have been playing the TW for some time now and love it. But one there is one thing I hate, the time limit on campaigns. Although it might be necessary for some, and some may like it, I have always hated timed games, as I find that they take away from the open ended gameplay (plus I like to take my time). Is there a cheat or modification of any kind that would let the campaign to infinite? If not is there going to be a mod to make this happen?
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    In RTW, when the victory screen came up you could hit CTRL S and hit ok for victory then reload and keep going. Although I tried it in the prolouge/tutorial and got the victory message and booted again from the victory screen from the reload.

    If that does'nt work theres ways to kill the victory, for many catholic factions just give Jeruasalum to the pope. So if you want to conquer the whole map just try to kill 1 of the victory conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oaty
    In RTW, when the victory screen came up you could hit CTRL S and hit ok for victory then reload and keep going. Although I tried it in the prolouge/tutorial and got the victory message and booted again from the victory screen from the reload.

    If that does'nt work theres ways to kill the victory, for many catholic factions just give Jeruasalum to the pope. So if you want to conquer the whole map just try to kill 1 of the victory conditions.
    Ok thanks
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    Actually in RTW, after the victory message comes up, it asks you if you want to continue.
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    ^^ You're right but that was after one of the patches
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    Is there an enhancement or coding in a file I can change to make it unlimited without the victory screen?

    Also, can you chose to continue if its a defeat, not victory?
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    I'd like to know this as well, given that it's turn 100 approximately, and I still have'nt gotten anywhere too significant. What's the best way to keep playing past the turn limit ?
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    hmm...
    i just gave jerusalem to the pope...
    that may not have been good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zharatustra
    hmm...
    i just gave jerusalem to the pope...
    that may not have been good...

    =[
    Probably not.
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    I'm at turn 140 and now hold 14 territories (I've gained and and lost an handful over the years). Anyway, I see this thing taking a long time. Before I started, I changed the timescale to 0.50, so there are actually 900 turns total. That leaves me with 760 left.
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    Don't worry, I do it all the time. He won't be able to hold it and he'll end up calling another crusade to get it back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Condormanius
    I'm at turn 140 and now hold 14 territories (I've gained and and lost an handful over the years). Anyway, I see this thing taking a long time. Before I started, I changed the timescale to 0.50, so there are actually 900 turns total. That leaves me with 760 left.
    Hey how'd you do that ?

    I don't understand how the turns work, sometimes it's a season, a lot of the time feels like a year has gone by.
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    It's really easy to do. The way it is set now is turns take 2 years. Oddly enough, characters age 1 year every two turns ( 1 year every 4 years). If you go into the descr_strat file (If you don't know where it is, it is easy to find.

    from your C drive, open the program folder for MTW2. Then go through a series of folders -- open "data", then "world", then "Maps", then "campaign", then "imperial_campaign".

    A bunch of text files and some other stuff will show up. (If you don't know what you're doing, leave these things alone) You want the file called "descr_strat".

    Open it. It should look more or less like this:

    I have indicated changes in bold that will make your game:

    1. have six month turns (like RTW, 900 turns total).
    2. characters will age correctly 1 year per 2 turns.
    3. both seasons each year.
    4. Instead of inticating the turn, the Campaign map will indicate the year (sorry it doesn't tell you what season it is).

    ; Custom campaign script generated by Romans Campaign Map Editor

    campaign imperial_campaign
    playable
    england
    france
    hre
    spain
    venice
    end
    unlockable
    sicily
    milan
    scotland
    byzantium
    russia
    moors
    turks
    egypt
    denmark
    portugal
    poland
    hungary
    end
    nonplayable
    papal_states
    aztecs
    mongols
    timurids
    slave
    end


    start_date 1080 summer
    end_date 1530 winter
    timescale 2.00 (change to 0.50)


    marian_reforms_disabled
    rebelling_characters_active
    gladiator_uprising_disabled
    night_battles_enabled
    show_date_as_turns (delete this line)
    brigand_spawn_value 20
    pirate_spawn_value 28

    ---------------------

    Save and you're done. you will have to start over from the beginning of your campaign. Also before you save, you will want to uncheck the "read-only" box on the file preferences for the descr_strat file.
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    Great ! Thanks very much !

    Start over. That's gonna be teh suck. Is there a way to avoid starting over ?
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    Nope. I had to do it too, but only after 20 turns. I really think it's worth it, though. the game feels a lot better, at least to me. Some people will argue but I like it better.
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    Turn 91 here. Ok. Well might do that, but anyway it's worth knowing for the next campaign. Thanks.

    Still open on best way to open end the game.

    Edit: By the way won't changing time scale to 0.5 make the game much easier ? Though it is ridiculous (I think) that a simple market takes 8 years to build some of the unit training might go through the roof, if it's 0.5 no ?
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    I've got mine set to 1.00.

    That way, I still have a nice and long campaign.

    Yeah, the generals and agents and whatnot age at half the speed, but I can deal with that more than I can deal with them aging at quarter speed.

    By setting it to 1.00, you get a long campaign, but you don't necessarily lose out on the oppurtunity to see the mongols, the black death, gunpowder, and the americas (if you move REALLY slow).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Condormanius
    It's really easy to do. The way it is set now is turns take 2 years. Oddly enough, characters age 1 year every two turns ( 1 year every 4 years). If you go into the descr_strat file (If you don't know where it is, it is easy to find.

    from your C drive, open the program folder for MTW2. Then go through a series of folders -- open "data", then "world", then "Maps", then "campaign", then "imperial_campaign".

    A bunch of text files and some other stuff will show up. (If you don't know what you're doing, leave these things alone) You want the file called "descr_strat".

    Open it. It should look more or less like this:

    I have indicated changes in bold that will make your game:

    1. have six month turns (like RTW, 900 turns total).
    2. characters will age correctly 1 year per 2 turns.
    3. both seasons each year.
    4. Instead of inticating the turn, the Campaign map will indicate the year (sorry it doesn't tell you what season it is).

    ; Custom campaign script generated by Romans Campaign Map Editor

    campaign imperial_campaign
    playable
    england
    france
    hre
    spain
    venice
    end
    unlockable
    sicily
    milan
    scotland
    byzantium
    russia
    moors
    turks
    egypt
    denmark
    portugal
    poland
    hungary
    end
    nonplayable
    papal_states
    aztecs
    mongols
    timurids
    slave
    end


    start_date 1080 summer
    end_date 1530 winter
    timescale 2.00 (change to 0.50)


    marian_reforms_disabled
    rebelling_characters_active
    gladiator_uprising_disabled
    night_battles_enabled
    show_date_as_turns (delete this line)
    brigand_spawn_value 20
    pirate_spawn_value 28

    ---------------------

    Save and you're done. you will have to start over from the beginning of your campaign. Also before you save, you will want to uncheck the "read-only" box on the file preferences for the descr_strat file.
    Thank you.
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    0.5 is for people who like to play slow ( at maximum level of difficulty , otherwise is too easy)...taking care of armies , play the puppet-master role , expanding slowly , keeping alive the most factions is possible , aiding weak nations ... i love it ...
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    It is pretty great. i have to admit I was a little annoyed with the game until I figured out how to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Condormanius
    It is pretty great. i have to admit I was a little annoyed with the game until I figured out how to do it.
    Whats the game without this? About 300 turns?
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    225.
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