Next Total War game?

[Punicus]

I think they'll make a M2TW expansion first and then a Napoleanic Total War game next. I'd like to see a Bronze Age Total War, though.

[Monarch]

Can we have a dedicated MULTIPLAYER game plz. Medieval era.

Sort out the chat system for gaud sake ( T - all,Y - team ),none of this press 1,press 6,press 8....what was I going to say anyway...!!!
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lol you can change that by editing your game files. In rome you can anyway.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

well Total War always has expansions, so you don't need to hope for one..

[Gratian]

Well, i would vote for smtg like Total War: China ... Qin Shi Huang era to Three Kingdoms (II cent BC to II cent AD...)
also smtg like Total War: Great Schizm about religious wars in Europe in 16-17th cent., like Thirty Years War (there are already Swiss pikes and Landsknechts in M2 so it is quite possible i think... ).
And instead of just Catholics we might get such structure as in RTW BI - Pagan vs Christianity, only with more religious fractions availiable to chose - catholics, protestants, calvinists and so on...
Also it could be Total War: Ottoman Invasion ...

[seireikhaan]

Personally, I would love to see Mongols: Total war. Have the game start at about 1200 A.D. There is the mongols, three different chinese dynasties, the Khwarzmians, Koreans, Japanese, and also the other tribes in Mongolia that Chinggis Khaan had unite before he became great Khaan. Also, perhaps Russia and Hungary, since they also had to face the mongols. I think extending it to the middle east and Egypt would make the map too big. Oh, and perhaps India, maybe. I'm sure there's also other cultures I'm not aware of at the time. The map would be large, there would be diversity between the factions, and I also would love to see the Mongols in a prominent role after having them play smaller roles in the mtw games and shogun. If not this, I also like the idea originally posted by Martok of having a Qin Shi Huang Chinese civil war game, that would be a lot of fun as well. I WOULD HATE any sort of colonization game, in addition to a WWI or WWII game. Colonization war tactics were terrible and there wouldn't be enough factions. As for WWI and WWII, the map would have to be absolutely huge, way bigger than anything CA has done yet. In addition, the combat would be so different from CA's past games that I'm worried they would do a terrible job, no offense. Fighting with swords, spears, and matchlock rifles is a long way away from M1 garands, bombers, fighters, and atomic bombs. Also, for WWII especially, there would not be enough factions. Really, can you expect to be able to play as the Czechs? Germany and Italy dominated Europe so much that it was really just them, England, and Russia. The other problem is time. All of the TW games have spanned hundreds of years. WWI and WWII would span maybe twenty to thiry years at the most. Napoleonic total war might be promising, just as long as they restricted it to Europe and don't go to North America and the other colonies.

[Tully Bascombe]

I'd like to see someone merge the history spanning time scope of the Civilization series, the world spanning scope of the Europa Universalis series, and the intermixture of strategic and tactical play of the Total War series. Then I'd like to see the addition of a feature allowing the player to assume the role of a combatant during battles, a sort of mini-fighting/role-playing game.

You'd never need to buy another game................until someone developed the galactic version.

[César Victor]

I think modernish TW games wouldn't be too fun. TW, for me, is all about marching vast armies into hand to hand combat with arrows raining down and cavalry outrunning everything. Battles that last an hour etc. You wouldn't get this if the game featured modern units.

I'd like to see Napoleonic combat but, if they were to do that, I think naval combat would have to be comletely redesigned.

[Monarch]

CV, I think you're exactly right. And lets face it, the next game is supposedyl the "revolution", now, CA can't just give us all another graphics upgrade and call it a revolution (this was ok mtw to rtw becuase its was 2d to 3d, which is major). This isn't console gaming, after all.

Something like naval warfare would be a major new feature they could flaunt.

Also on the mp side of things...you could have naval mp battles which would own

[Tristrem]

I would rather have a game with no naval combat that had balanced battles and no gamebreaking flaws. They should perfect land battles long before they even think about moving into the naval theater. And if they do not have naval combat it should be abstract and simple like MTW with sea regions. A RTW, M2TW, type map doesn't work for abstract naval battles because you just end up playing ping pong until 5 turns later a ship sinks.

If there was another total war game I would love to see them make would have different campaigns to choose from. It could be like EUIII where they have a many different starting dates, one every 200 years, and you could pick any faction in the world. This could start at the rise of greece and end after the American Civil War ( the last possible war that total war battles would be good with). Then everyone could pick and country they wanted in almost any time period and create their own total war. (However this would probably be very costly and could take years upon years to create). One possiblity would be to buy the engine, the original game, and then be able to buy additional expansion time periods, kinda like how the SIMS games work, you don't need to expansion, but if you get it you recieve tons of bonus features. Plus with this system CA could milk the player base out of oodles of money, plenty to fund further efforts and expansions. Now that is an idea that is revolutionary, not just add some naval battle eye candy.

But if they continue on the current path I would like to see a Byzantium total war, Rise of Islam tw, mongol tw, or maybe even a rise of russia total war going from the mongol invasions to the communist revolution.

[Xehh II]

Byzantium tw, Rise of islam tw and Rise of Russia tw would not be very good but I support Mongol tw and the first idea.

[Lord Cazaric]

Rise of Islam totar war would be pathetic. (Hm, I sound like a tw addict! Grr!) It would be all set around the same time, with not that much happening. It's the same with Byzantium TW. Mongol total war would be great however, as its so in-depth and long, with Genghis, Tamerlane (founder of the Timurids) and the siege of Baghdad...could be fun.

However, I'd prefer Greece total war, as there are MANY city-states to play as. eg. Sparta, Athens, Argos, Mycenae, Corinth, Pylos, Thrace and others. You could even add in a Trojan civilisation if it showed the western coast of modern Turkey, as they actually did exist.

[Lord Cazaric]

And Medieval 3 Total War would be the most pointless waste of space ever. So soon after number 2 came out, nothing would be new or better. *yawns* Boring.

[caravel]

Rise of Islam totar war would be pathetic. (Hm, I sound like a tw addict! Grr!) It would be all set around the same time, with not that much happening.

I totally disagree that it would be pathetic, but I do doubt it would be very popular.

Correctly implemented it would make for a fascinating campaign, and would be a welcome break from the samey world map with generic provinces and factions that we've had since MTW1.

Starting in the 7th century and continuing until the 12th with the end of the Fatimid Caliphate. The map could cover a smaller area including the Arabian Peninsula, Mesopotamia, Asia Minor, Iran etc.

[Lord Cazaric]

Meh. I suppose so. Greece would be more interesting though.

[Xehh II]

Yes! Greece would be better than rise of islam.

[seireikhaan]

My problem w/ greece total war would be the lack of variety and VERY small map. The militaries would all be mostly similar, w/ sparta and athens having obvious advantages over the others. Also, what would be the timeline for Greece? Just somewhat curious.

Islam total war could be interesting, but there is a problem w/ your current map. Who would be all of the different factions? It doesn't include the Mali, a huge islamic power in Africa towards the latter end of that timeline. Mansa Musa, a fairly well known Mali ruler, went on his trek to Mecca with so much gold that he caused massive inflation for years in Egypt just by going through Egypt on the pilgrimage. Allegedly, each of his one hundred slaves each had a golden staff for the pilgrimage. Now imagine what that wealth could be used for militarily...?

[Caerfanan]

My problem w/ greece total war would be the lack of variety and VERY small map. The militaries would all be mostly similar, w/ sparta and athens having obvious advantages over the others. Also, what would be the timeline for Greece? Just somewhat curious.

Islam total war could be interesting, but there is a problem w/ your current map. Who would be all of the different factions? It doesn't include the Mali, a huge islamic power in Africa towards the latter end of that timeline. Mansa Musa, a fairly well known Mali ruler, went on his trek to Mecca with so much gold that he caused massive inflation for years in Egypt just by going through Egypt on the pilgrimage. Allegedly, each of his one hundred slaves each had a golden staff for the pilgrimage. Now imagine what that wealth could be used for militarily...?

If there were to be a "rise of islam" total war, I'd rather put it under a non religious name (same as rome: something like Mecca total war?)

It would be very interesting to have a map which would include at least all the northern part of Africa, haven't seen any yet!

[the greek]

aisa Total war Would be way different to the last 3 medieval 1 and 2 and rome other than shogun aisa is totally untouched by CA

[seireikhaan]

Lord Cazaric, what would be your time table for greece? It would be a very, very small map. What would be the incentives to play as some of the smaller city states? Shogun at least had bonuses to the various warlords. If they followed history, Athens and Sparta would be way overpowered compared to the others.

Cambyses II, who would be the factions for Islam? It doesn't seem like there would be very many. Based on the map it wouldn't even include the Mali, who became quite powerful in western Africa.

[seireikhaan]

Ooops, accidentally double posted, sorry.

[Tellos Athenaios]

...it will be an expansion pack for MTW 2. Give them six months to a year and it will be released.

The next different TW series is a good guess. I will just sit back and watch.

Second.

[aja5191]

I mean I love the timeframe of MT2W, but I feel like it's too different form what I really love: ROME!

[Lord Cazaric]

Lord Cazaric, what would be your time table for greece? It would be a very, very small map. What would be the incentives to play as some of the smaller city states? Shogun at least had bonuses to the various warlords. If they followed history, Athens and Sparta would be way overpowered compared to the others.

Cambyses II, who would be the factions for Islam? It doesn't seem like there would be very many. Based on the map it wouldn't even include the Mali, who became quite powerful in western Africa.

Greece could go from about 1300 to 300 BC if necessary. And Sparta would be a huge military powerhouse but not much else - also, while having strong units, there wouldn't be many of them - 85% of the Spartan population were helots (slaves).

There are several larger city-states - Sparta and Athens, obviously, but also Mycenae, Corinth (in a very strategic location - the Isthmus), Thrace, Argos, Pylos...the list goes on.

Athens and Sparta weren't always so strong - around 1300-1000 BC, Mycenae would have been the most powerful. And also, not all factions are equal in Total War - look at the difference between the Danes and the Germans, Byzantines or Almohads in MTW.

As for an Islamic one, some factions could include the Fatamids, Abbasids, Ayyubids, Seljuks, Egyptians etc.

[Andejar]

How about a modern day one called "W Total War".

[seireikhaan]

Hmm, I suppose that Greece might be promising, but what kind of variation would there be among the militaries? Didn't the city-states all use a variation of the phananx as their main troop?

While its true that some factions in MTW were stronger, all of them had some strong points and some kind of uniqueness for troops that made them very fun and manageable(well, ok, Poland does get it pretty rough). Cavalry was still pretty limited by this point, as the stirrup wasn't invented yet. Unless I am mistaken, which is quite possible and correct me if I am, the gameplay would be a lot of phalanxes ramming into each other while archers tried to whittle the enemy down enough to ensure victory. Phalanx warfare pre-companion cavalry was somewhat unimaginitive. I would love, however, to have the Persians invade, in a fashion similar to the Mongols in MTW. I love the defence the Greeks made to Persia and I think that would a blast to recreate. If not in the game, they could make that the expansion, Persian Invasion.

Oh, for clarification purposes, would the rise of Islam total war begin just after the Arab empire split into civil war?

[Laman]

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Oh, for clarification purposes, would the rise of Islam total war begin just after the Arab empire split into civil war?

Considering the Rise part, I would say the time there would be it's initial expansion, squashing Sassanids, defeating ERE, etc.

[Caerfanan]

Greece could go from about 1300 to 300 BC if necessary. And Sparta would be a huge military powerhouse but not much else - also, while having strong units, there wouldn't be many of them - 85% of the Spartan population were helots (slaves).

There are several larger city-states - Sparta and Athens, obviously, but also Mycenae, Corinth (in a very strategic location - the Isthmus), Thrace, Argos, Pylos...the list goes on.

Athens and Sparta weren't always so strong - around 1300-1000 BC, Mycenae would have been the most powerful. And also, not all factions are equal in Total War - look at the difference between the Danes and the Germans, Byzantines or Almohads in MTW.

As for an Islamic one, some factions could include the Fatamids, Abbasids, Ayyubids, Seljuks, Egyptians etc.

Uuhhhh... Could it be some "Viking Invasion type" campaign for Rome Total War? I mean, if the purpose is the control of Greece!

[Caerfanan]

How about a modern day one called "W Total War".

Well thing is that the modern battles are not really fit for a TW type game. I think that the last battles "TW-compliant" would be in the 19th century, when they were still happening on a field and based on eye sight. And even then some people underlined that there was too few units in the end (on that point I would love a wargamer opinion on how show differences between two different "missile" units for instance: must be something: melee prowess, firerate, range? could nbe something like the differences between all the spears in MTW).

How could you manage 10 people squads, multifunction equipment, very long ranges (an average modern tank shoots easily at 3 000 meters, 155mm artillery guns about 28-30km), aircrafts?

[PseRamesses]

Oh, for clarification purposes, would the rise of Islam total war begin just after the Arab empire split into civil war?

IMHO a RoI game should start in 632ad with Muhammed at the gates of Mekka. The split witin islam, that came later, could be portrayed later with emerging forces (like mongols/ timurids). This will let the player build his empire for some 100 years, fight Byzans at its height (drool) and later try to cope with the schisms in Syria, Iberia and N.Africa. The game map should cover, like the EB map, all lands from Gibraltar to the Indus and from Sudan to maybee southern Scandinavia.

[Maximillian von Hapsburg]

I reckon maybe we should have something set around the other bronze age civilizations rather than only Rome, like the Hittite wars with the Mitanni and the battle against the Egyptians at Kadesh.


Also would love to see Napoleon: Total War, would love to play as the French, English or the Prussians.

Crusade: Total War wouldn't be bad, I'd have fun owning the Almohads or shooting arrows into the crusaders' heads

I voted for NTW but any one of those would be awesome!



Yours,




Max