How to see whether a particular faction is excommunicated?

**Whacker** · 11-30-2006, 22:03

I haven't found any way either in M2TW. Whether or not there is some way, I loved your idea of it being evident on the Pope-o-matic-meter-chart screen. I most humbly suggest that you, as the owner of the original idea, shove this in the patch wishlist thread.

**Doug-Thompson** · 11-30-2006, 22:05

I believe that information is available on the diplomatic screen. Hold the cursor over the faction's emblem and see if it tells you.

**Mauler** · 11-30-2006, 22:06

Actually, I think it does tell you on the Pope-o-Meter screen. If you hover your cursor over the number of crosses a faction has, I believe it will say something about the Pope having "denounced" the faction if they have been excommunicated.

**Basileus** · 11-30-2006, 22:08

I thought if a faction did not have any crosses in the pope screen it was excommunicated, i will have to check it out in game.

**Quillan** · 11-30-2006, 22:10

The pope-o-meter of excommunicated factions drops to zero when they are excommunicated, but it can climb back up before they are reconciled. I've seen France get back up to 4 on the scale and only get a reconciliation with a change of Pope. The tooltip on that screen is the only way you can tell, which means for a muslim or orthodox faction you can't tell, because you don't get the notifications either.

**Havard** · 11-30-2006, 22:15

Originally Posted by Quillan

The pope-o-meter of excommunicated factions drops to zero when they are excommunicated, but it can climb back up before they are reconciled. I've seen France get back up to 4 on the scale and only get a reconciliation with a change of Pope. The tooltip on that screen is the only way you can tell, which means for a muslim or orthodox faction you can't tell, because you don't get the notifications either.

Muslims and Orthodox don't get excommunicated. They are alreay schismatics/heathens...

**Doug-Thompson** · 11-30-2006, 22:22

Originally Posted by Havard

Muslims and Orthodox don't get excommunicated. They are alreay schismatics/heathens...

Right. That's why they don't get notices from the Pope about excommunications, which was what the post said.

**knoddy** · 11-30-2006, 22:25

hold ur mouse over the faction shields on the Pope O meter, and if that faction is ecomuted it tells you iirc. and no there is no way for non catholic factions to tell, they dont get notices about exomution and they cant look at the pope o meter.

CHeers Knoddy

**Slaists** · 11-30-2006, 22:20

Well, for muslims and orthodox it does not matter that much. All catholics are kind of your enemies anyway. The only game-play advantage of knowing whether someone is excommunicated would be if it did not upset the Pope if you attacked a region of an excommunicated catholic faction. In case you wanted to keep peace with him.

Originally Posted by Quillan

The pope-o-meter of excommunicated factions drops to zero when they are excommunicated, but it can climb back up before they are reconciled. I've seen France get back up to 4 on the scale and only get a reconciliation with a change of Pope. The tooltip on that screen is the only way you can tell, which means for a muslim or orthodox faction you can't tell, because you don't get the notifications either.

I will double check about the Pope-o-meter tooltips and the diplomacy shields. My memory tells me, I could not get them to display anything about excommunication.