Cornering inquisitors. Exploit or legal maneuver?

[afrit]

I want to know what others think of using regular troops to surround and kill inquisitors. Do you feel it is an exploit or a legal "arresting the inquisitor" maneuver?

[For those not in the know, someone else found that you can kill an inquisitor by surrounding its square on all 8 sides, then moving in a 9th army unit onto its square. Since the inquisitor cannot go anywhere, it dies. I used it yesterday to avoid losing a high command general on top of a large stack. It felt too easy... I'd rather have an assasin do it, but I've not ever succeeded in killing an inquisitor that wary.]

[Doug-Thompson]

A legal maneuver until psycho inquisitors are patched, along with feckless assassins.

After that, an exploit

[Wizzie]

It's your game, you paid for it and should be allowed to play it any way you want. If you feel Inquisitors detract from the game with their current power, then I don't see anything wrong with taking matters into your own hands.

Personally, it depends on how it is used. I wouldn't, for example, use it if there was only one or two or three Inquisitors running around my lands. If, however, they were being spammed all over my territory and getting a little match-happy, I wouldn't hesitate to send my army on some "training manouvres" in which any hapless bystanders might get marched on

[Zenicetus]

I want to know what others think of using regular troops to surround and kill inquisitors. Do you feel it is an exploit or a legal "arresting the inquisitor" maneuver?]

I'm not an expert on the period, but I think it was exceedingly rare for an Inquisitor to target the king or heir of a powerful faction, or the general in a crusading army. It was also rare to target priests, except maybe in a few politically motivated cases that had nothing to do with heresy, per se (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbain_Grandier).

Therefore I think the "exploit" is justified and realistic. It represents the way a king's retinue would respond to a too-aggressive Inquisitor, who started stacking firewood at the door of a faction leader, or one who tried to interrupt a Crusader army. The Inquisition targeted mainly civilian and low-prestige targets, where there were plenty of easy pickings without angering the powers-that-be.

I'm not sure CA will actually alter the way Inquisitors target family members and crusading generals, since the manual does mention that Inquisitors might go after your faction leader. It will be interesting to see if they remove this "exploit" or not, in the first series of patches.

I do think Inquisitors add something to the game. It's a random risk element, like storms or pirates when you're traveling at sea. It wouldn't be the Medieval period without the Inquisition in the game. But some targets really should be off-limits, for the sake of realism.

[littlebktruck]

I'd say it's an exploit, but considering that it's pretty much impossible to do accidentally, I don't think there's any real reason to fix it. If people want to use it, of course they're free to.

[Kraxis]

Currently it is only an exploit if you are facing one or a few Inqs. However if you are fearing for the entire royal line then you should by all means do it. In fact I'm happy to hear about it, now I might also haev a chance in the beginning next time. And I might even use it when a Crusade-leader is in trouble (I really really hate inquisitions of them).

When they are nerfed a bit I would consider it an exploit.

But now the question remains, how do you feel about creating a wall, forcing the Inquisitor to go into 'enemy' lands and burn them. As it is I think I will try it out.

[Musashi]

I used the trick on a Milanese merchant... but that's because it was like turn three and I checked his stats and he was like rank 7! I was like "Oh hell no!" and just used the corner and squash trick.

[Oaty]

This exploit has been in since RTW.

Probably the fix for it will allow the agents to walk through armies instead of being blocked.....hopefully. As in RTW I'd occasionally pay the toll to get my diplomat through. Funny thing is the army made so much from the toll they dissapeared, I guess early retirement or something.

I never abused it but is much more needed at least until the patch. So far I've used it on inquisitors for sensesless stuff, killing royal blood, a 7 piety cardinal. Annoying asassins that have failed 5 times but still didnt die from thier failure. And of course merchants of lower rank taking out my higher ranked merchant.

I was fine with AI merchants until I found found out that lower ranked ones can easily take out yours, plus if the AI fails theres a 50/50 chance you will pick up a negative trait instead of a positive one. Really if I could'nt exploit it I'd have to ignore the merchants in the game all together.