The Will of the Senate - Out of character thread V

**TinCow** · 12-09-2006, 21:03

Bad news from the MP testing front. FLYdude, Lucjan, and I were not able to get a game to work. We all received incompatible version errors when we tried to join each other, no matter who was hosting or what version of the game we tried. FLYdude seems to think it is the Platinum version that is causing the problems and suggests that Gold might work. Another option would be to do the battles in a Vanilla version and fudge the armies as best as we were able to.

**econ21** · 12-09-2006, 23:22

That's disappointing. You could explore RTR Gold, as it's basically got the same units etc. But it could be a hassle installing it for some.

I think going with vanilla RTW would be easiest, especially if we could mod the unit stats and movement speeds (they are just two text files and it would be very easy to tweak the relevant units to have RTRPE stats). Luckily in the case of the Romans, I think there's a decent match between RTR units and RTW ones. We'd only have problems with a few exotic mercenaries.

I am not sure whether there is a problem doing MP with a modded EDU file. I don't think there should be, but I've asked in the RTW MP forum to check:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...09&postcount=1

Even if we can't mod the stats or movement speeds, I think RTW would give a decent approximation.

**Lucjan** · 12-10-2006, 04:59

I don't see why anybody would have an issue with accepting approximated units due to platinums failure to somehow be compatible with itself.

I've asked a friend for his cd key from a disc that no longer works and he's going to look for it for me tomorrow, I'll try some more things to see if I can't get platinum to work for us when I have the second key, I'll let you guys know what's up after that.

**Mount Suribachi** · 12-10-2006, 12:53

Yeah, I think playing with all Roman armies with vanilla should be OK. Other than the increased movement speeds I would imagine its pretty similar.

**econ21** · 12-10-2006, 23:51

Myrddraal reckons it would not be a problem to mod the stats and movement speeds in MP, so we should be fine.

Now that Ancrya has been resolved, I've played turn 3 of the civil war (autumn 250). I now need orders for turn 4. The savegame is:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/250-win.zip

Most important are Lucjan's orders for Servius and Quintus Naevius; Swordsmaster's and Tiberius's for Luca and Decius; and GeneralHankerchief's. The others will not reach Italy for another season or more.

If people could get me orders by Monday night or Tuesday at the latest, that would be good.

**Death the destroyer of worlds** · 12-11-2006, 01:47

Just a brief note that I found the battle and the reports utterly fascinating.
Muchos kudos for econ21 !
Of course I am also enjoying the civil war stories.
Senate - Consul
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**Tamur** · 12-11-2006, 04:59

And I have to add that, even though I was in the "general" chair for the Senate, I found the reports equally fascinating. It made me wish in a big way that there were a way to do that more often -- though of course I would not wish it on econ to have to referee another battle spending hours and hours of his time to do it.

He gave both Braden and I obscured and incomplete battle reports based on where our generals were, made us order by division rather than unit, and generally turned it into a much more real experience. At times it was frustrating, at times rather shocking, but both in a good way.

I've often wished that, in TW battles, I didn't even have the option to micromanage each unit -- that I could instead turn things over to a division commander and say "get this job done" without worrying that said commander will simply charge any enemy in sight range.

So, having econ give us exactly that possibility was jarring at first. Now I'm having a lot of trouble going back to the normal fashion of TW battles.

A big thanks to econ for the way he handled this.