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    Engaging the Muslim community should be "at the heart of security policy"
    British Muslims are being driven into the arms of violent extremists by official attempts to engage with them after the July 7 bombs, a study claims.

    Policies since the attacks in London have "driven a wedge" between Muslims and the wider community rather than isolate extremists, the report says.

    The study, by think tank Demos, accused ministers of failing to engage Muslims over British foreign policy in Iraq.

    It called for "community relations to be at the heart of security policy".

    'Resentment and alienation'

    The report - partly funded by the Department for Communities and Local Government - described attempts to involve Muslims in the policy-making process as "rushed, conducted on the government's terms, failing to break away from 'the usual suspects', and with little follow through".

    Liberal Democrat Shadow Home Secretary, Nick Clegg MP, said: "There is little to be gained in the long term by providing our security and police services with extra powers to tackle terrorism if, at the same time, the conditions for ever-deeper radicalisation are not being addressed with equal vigour."

    The report stated: "In the meeting rooms of Whitehall, ministers were assuring Muslim leaders of the need for partnership, but in press briefings they were talking of the need for Muslims to 'get serious' about terrorism, spy on their children, and put up with inconveniences in the greater good of national security."

    It also said that the government' s actions were breeding "resentment and alienation" among Muslims and "playing into the hands of the extremists".

    "By viewing Muslims as a single interest group the government has failed to draw a clear enough distinction between angry Muslim opinion and those that would seek to inflict violence and terror," it added.

    "The result is that rather than being isolated, extremists are able to attract support from communities cut adrift from mainstream British society."

    The report, to be published on Monday, also said that the Foreign Office, Department for International Development and Ministry of Defence needed to increase the number of staff dedicated to "outreach" with minority communities.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6205050.stm

    I'm almost cynical enough to believe that this was the intention all along.
    and New Zealand.

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    Policies drive a wedge huh, I'd say the attacks do a better job at that. Have yet to see an anti-terror demonstration, all I see are these crazy-eyed guys holding signs with poetic expressions such as death to all infidels and behead all disbelievers. Maybe I am just not very receptive for their way of doing public relations and don't see the cry for attention and genuine concern for their community.

    I'd rather see this --->

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    Yes, we all know the Dutch have a thing for burning mosques thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman
    Yes, we all know the Dutch have a thing for burning mosques thank you.
    You are quite welcome, churches went down as well by the way, let me guess, you didn't know that. That was of course a reaction on the reaction on the way we reacted when we reacted on the reaction.

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    Knew that'd ruffle some feathers.

    Anyway, I assume you didn't notice how your initial commentary fitted pretty much exactly the criteria of what the British authorities were accused of in the OP article...?
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman
    Knew that'd ruffle some feathers.
    It's called baiting technically, I don't mind, but what is it with these senior members lately.

    About article, just the usual cultivation of victimhood. They aren't victims. Problems in the Netherlands, problems in England, problems in France, problems in Belgium, problems in Germany, all desperatily trying to figure out what they are doing wrong, it would make a lot more sense to see what all these countries with all vastly different aproaches towards the immigration-issues have in common. Guess what.

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