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    Default HAs and guerrilla tactics

    I've not played any faction with HAs.

    Is there wnything that stops a faction with HAs from simply massing them, attacking, emptying the quivers and retreating? Over and over.

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    Wait, what? Member Aelwyn's Avatar
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    I just started playing MTW2 last night, but I have yet to encounter what you've talked about. I've basically been all over the map though.

    One thing I did notice about the "passive AI" though, is their continuous attacking and retreating while in a battle, while new, has also been combined with them being even more dumb. Usually, when you attack one unit, several other AI units will respond to help the one being attacked. That doesn't seem to happen in this version. It would spell their death if I had enough men, but I have been outnumbered and outclassed almost every battle, somehow. So I've been taking out 80-95% of my opponents, but still losing.

    Besides this, I haven't seen this passive AI. The AI in my campaign is attacking the hell out of me, every turn. I'm in the hole monetarily, and struggling against larger armies. They have me on the ropes.

    Now if the AI could try to stop letting me get units behind them unopposed, they would be winning battles with much better results.

    But I do have to say, I only lost 1-5 battles per campaign in MTW 1. I think I've lost 4 within 25 years in MTW2. So either I'm doing worse (more likely, I havent play TW in about a year) or the AI is going better.

    I guess it'll take a few weeks to figure it out. btw I'm France.

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    Default Re: HAs and guerrilla tactics

    The passive Ai doesnt refer to campaign map AI
    just to the battlefield Ai that lines up in front of you and sits there
    If your the defense type that uses missle units you could wipe the battlefield clean

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    You can mass, empty quivers, and retreat, but you'll get a loss for the battle along with all accompanying disadvantages associated with a defeat, i.e., lots of extra individual losses in your army and a drop in loyalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IPoseTheQuestionYouReturnTheAnswer
    You can mass, empty quivers, and retreat, but you'll get a loss for the battle along with all accompanying disadvantages associated with a defeat, i.e., lots of extra individual losses in your army and a drop in loyalty.
    Thanks very much, that was the answer I was looking for.

    I suppose the loss of loyalty doesn't apply to troops without a general but I have no idea if there is a way of avoiding the extra troop loss for losing. And general-less troops tend to rebel anyway.

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    Default Re: HAs and guerrilla tactics

    If you are referring to take an army of horse archers, attack someone, and retreat from the battle once the quivers are empty, then you can only do it once. Aside from the consequences of losing the battle (you'll lose troops even if you lost no one in the fight and retreated off under your own power), the army will use up all its movement in retreating, meaning the other army can do whatever it wants in its own turn. Of course, you can always attack it again in your next turn if your army is still around.
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