Unit (and Building) Names in EB 0.8

[Oleo]

I sort of like this

Frameharjoz  (Germanic Spear Infantry)

instead of

Frameharjoz\n(Germanic Spear Infantry)

resulting in



1 looks worse (in some cases), 2 and 3 dont seem to much different (in how good they look)for me, 4 is a bit better, 5 and 6 look way better. Drawback of course is that there probably are longer unit names, which sort of dont look to good, see thessalian cavalry.

[khelvan]

I had always voted in favor for having the translated unit names in the description and/or tooltips rather than the name itself, so to me I strongly prefer anything other than what we're working on here, but you guys already knew that.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

How do those look on the battlefield oleo? If they look good, that seems a viable option.

edit: Khelvan, I agree the name in the description and tooltip would suffice, but the tooltip is just the name. So if it's in the name, it's in the tooltip, but if it's in the description, it's not in the tooltip. At least that's how buildings work and I thought that's how units work too.

[Imperator]

I really like the look of what oleo's has got- anyone care to upload that edu, or am I going to have to do that by hand?

[Oleo]

Thank you for the kind words.

How do those look on the battlefield oleo? If they look good, that seems a viable option.

Here are some shots on the battlefield





Here is a link to my export_units.txt file, for those who want it changed. Ive changed all units, according to my last post. I havent really tested it yet, but I dont see any reason why it shouldn't work properly. Still: Use it at your own risk. I included an original, but back up your own. The file has to be put in C:\program files\activision\Rome - Total War\EB\data\text, or your custom installation folder.


http://rapidshare.com/files/6455757/Unit_names.rar.html


I have one other question. The general format in the original text is:

{name}>TAB<name\n(translation)

For instance:

{greek_missile_toxotai} Toxotai\n(Hellenic Archers)

But sometimes units are in this format:

{name}>TAB< name\n(translation),

there are one or two or three spaces between the tab and the name (toxotai). Is that intentional or by accident? Cause it makes the names not line up straight in the MIC-screen (when you rightclick on the MIC/barracks)

[blacksnail]

Great catch, Oleo! That looks like a mistake.

[Kull]

I sort of like this

Frameharjoz  (Germanic Spear Infantry)

instead of

Frameharjoz\n(Germanic Spear Infantry)

I totally agree. The offsets and overwrites resulting from the \n were downright awful. Your fix appears to be VERY effective! Thanks!

I really like the look of what oleo's has got- anyone care to upload that edu, or am I going to have to do that by hand?

As far as I'm concerned, it should be part of the bug fix release, and thus not too far off. For anyone who wants to "do your own", find the export_units.txt and export_buildings.txt inside the \EB\Data\text folder and eliminate every \n that lies between the native and translated names.

A step by step "search-replace" involving "\n(" in the search and " " in the replace should allow you to process the change very quickly (a "global replace" is risky, thus the recommendation for a one-by-one).

[CountArach]

Those look good Oleo! However, I think that buildings should stay as they are. They look fine as is IMO.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

I totally agree. The offsets and overwrites resulting from the \n were downright awful. Your fix appears to be VERY effective! Thanks!



As far as I'm concerned, it should be part of the bug fix release, and thus not too far off. For anyone who wants to "do your own", find the export_units.txt and export_buildings.txt inside the \EB\Data\text folder and eliminate every \n that lies between the native and translated names.

A step by step "search-replace" involving "/n(" in the search and " " in the replace should allow you to process the change very quickly (a "global replace" is risky, thus the recommendation for a one-by-one).

I am in agreement with this also Kull. I don't think fans should worry with it - the files are being changed up for the next build anyway, so fan changes would get overwritten. We need to do it. I'll do it if need be - if Aymar would like someone else to take it on.

[fallen851]

Awesome.

[khelvan]

I would pay good money if some fan wants to take the time to remove the English descriptions from the names to preserve immersion as an EB mini-mod. Anyone up for a commission? :)

I would personally play with that mini-mod, and I only wish I had the time to make it.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

And to keep updating it as further updates come down the pipe?

[khelvan]

Of course, sometimes one must sacrifice for the greater good ;)

[Watchman]

I would pay good money if some fan wants to take the time to remove the English descriptions from the names to preserve immersion as an EB mini-mod. Anyone up for a commission? :)

I would personally play with that mini-mod, and I only wish I had the time to make it.

I could do it, and for free too. Did it already with the 0.8 one, although if you want it you'll need to tell me how to send it over first...

[Batahr]

I would pay good money if some fan wants to take the time to remove the English descriptions from the names to preserve immersion as an EB mini-mod. Anyone up for a commission? :)

Here you are, now where's that good money? :)

I also removed the extra spaces/tabs Oleo noticed a few posts up. I didn't do this by hand, but did a few find/replaces (I love regular expressions), so I'm not guaranteeing everything is 100% correct.

And BTW, my thanks to the entire EB team for their fantastic work! It's great seeing all the pieces (units, buildings, music, speech, GUI, descriptions, traits, etc) previewed before come together and truly form one whole. It gives the game precisely the right atmosphere, something that is quite hard to achieve.

[khelvan]

You guys rock - you might want to use our minimod forum up above so that this gets visibility.