TW Centre has had a re-vamp - The Org needs one too

**Adrian II** · 12-05-2006, 14:11

Originally Posted by Avlvs Libvrnivs Britannicvs Maximvs

A new official web-site revamp (seen as nobody seems interested in my unofficial one)

I wonder if there is a hidden message in there.

Could it be that you represent a small minority (which is not a reproach, just a conclusion) and most Orgahs are satisfied with the present lay-out, staff and icons?

**Myrddraal** · 12-05-2006, 14:19

I also think we could work to improve this site without constantly having to compare with other sites. This competitive nature is a bit unpleasant, and it's not something I'd noticed so much at the .org.

We're all one community, lets be happy

**caravel** · 12-05-2006, 14:35

Originally Posted by Avlvs Libvrnivs Britannicvs Maximvs

Yes, but highly graphical websites encourage new members to join. Highly boring websites (like the one the Org has now) encourage people to not join and instead to leave.

But... the .com forum has far more members than any others, with the following amazing features:

Forum skins: Black, Black, Black or the new Black theme
Signatures: None
Avatars: None
BBcode: None
Smilies: None

Yes that's right, it's as fully featured as notepad. Do you think they would increase membership and posting if they had a sexier UI? Personally when I go to forum I want usability. I don't care much what it looks like as long as it works ok and is fast. What I do hate is sitting around waiting for billions of images to download every time I access the board.

I can agree with you that the actual website needs a facelift, but nothing more. I don't think it needs the fancy nukeportal and tarted up eye candy forum skin treatment however.

**LeftEyeNine** · 12-05-2006, 16:43

Ha ok, so here we have it again.

It was around 3-4 years ago that I had come across with The Org. Actually I was looking for a way to find an answer to one of my problems in MTW. I looked around, somehow got to the forums, registered and asked about what I was looking for (It may have been another username before LEN became my virtual identity)

I quickly forgot about The Org, because it did not have a flashy interface. Whenever I joined there I couldn't see eyecandy swinging axes flashing into my eyes or charging hordes of cavalries animations with full authentic sounds all over the place where the buttons were designed in a trebuchet throw animation. The Org had really lost me indeed. Pity. What a piece of crap it was.

But it was when I turned back here and registered to hear other's opinions about how nice a MTW in 3d would be. (Wow, Spartakus was the first one to reply to that, good memories

) I had seen that people were sharing their ideas in a good and understandable manner using mankind languages. Right that moment, one of my fingers started itching for flashy tinky winky deedle doodle websites and for how dumbass was I to miss .Org 's happy full house community due to some meaningless eyecandy.

[holster the assistant moderator dagger and throw away the toilet mop]

The Org has been and is being run by professional webmasters and they precisely know what to do when the attention is slipping away or when the website needs make-ups.

Suggestions and criticisms are vital to anything public, and The Org is obviously one of them. But pushing and forcing things to change repeatedly while there is merely a response is annoying. As a fully satisfied and happy member of The Org since my step in, I am getting annoyed at "Wheeeh Wheeeeh ! Let's pull that this way!" screams. My ears are bleeding indeed.

What you show as an example can't compare to The Org in any terms longing from the friendship to, say, the political BS propaganda I clench my teeth at.

I want my house wooden and neat. 'Cause I don't want a shiny, neon-lightened casino. You know bugs like light. It won't take long before they 'll fly in.

[/holster the assistant moderator dagger and throw away the toilet mop]

Regards.

**Mikeus Caesar** · 12-05-2006, 16:48

So, you're saying people are attracted to that awful place by the flashy lights and bells?

Well surely giving us flashy lights and bells will bring the horrid people here?

I personally like the .org as it is. Simplistic yet functional.

**The Wizard** · 12-05-2006, 17:03

Not needed. Org wins, hands down. TWC is full of newbs and crackheads, if I may be so frank. Only place worth your while is the Symposium, and that's only accessible through the strange patronage system of the site.

Besides -- TWC's current design sucks. Hardcore. The old RTW skin they made, now that was some graphical ingenuity, especially those graphical icons. Ever since they opted for that MTW2 look they've entered the realms of fail.

Note: realms of fail on the graphical side. Few TWC members, indeed, exceed the realms of fail on the community side. And community remains the heart of a forum. Ze Org winz all when it concerns community

**caravel** · 12-05-2006, 17:07

Originally Posted by currywurry

So, you're saying people are attracted to that awful place by the flashy lights and bells?

Well surely giving us flashy lights and bells will bring the horrid people here?

I personally like the .org as it is. Simplistic yet functional.

Yea, blinging the place up will cause an infestation of horrid little blighters that resemble your boss's horrible little spoilt rich kid son, that is getting no less than 15 games and a new PC with the bestest graphics card this christmas... or... or... he's going to scream... yes thats it and... and... he's going to hate mumsy wumsy and popsy forever if they don't buy it for him. And if you ban him for wanting to try out swearsy words he'll be back again with hundreds of IPsessss... daddy will get your site closed down forever...

**The Stranger** · 12-05-2006, 17:11

Originally Posted by currywurry

So, you're saying people are attracted to that awful place by the flashy lights and bells?

Well surely giving us flashy lights and bells will bring the horrid people here?

I personally like the .org as it is. Simplistic yet functional.

I have to agree

**The Wizard** · 12-05-2006, 17:43

TWC has some good folks. But that's only a section of the "promoted" members there (those with access to the Symposium and such and such), and considering the fact that those promoted members, both the worthwhile ones and the weird ones, form a very tiny minority of the total userbase, and comparing that to the Org's majority of thoughtful, wise, grown-up and intelligent posters...

You get the message.

P.S. Oh, and try the Sengoku Jidai skin. When its aesthetic pleasure you need, Duke John provides

**Ciaran** · 12-05-2006, 17:57

It´s not the looks that make a forum attractive, it´s the quality of posts. If it were up to me, I´d banish anything but one-line signatures and simple static avatars. I don´t need my bandwith eaten up with junk. Drastic? Certainly, but I´m a most spartan person and I couldn´t care less about decoration. When I join a forum I want either to get information or have an interesting discussion, perhaps the occasional screenshot, but I certainly don´t want half a page cluttered by signatures, which to load takes minutes of my precious time - and since I´m a working person, what little spare time I have is precious. Every minute of it.

The only thing that would warrant a revamp would be a restructuring of the forum, but I don´t consider that necessary, the forum is very well laid out, I can find whatever information I want quickly, just by giving the subforum headlines a quick glance.