Mongols & Timurids: When?

**TheFluff** · 12-05-2006, 23:23

Ok here is the deal, i dont recall 100% though but i played the HRE and conqured pretty much the entire world by the time the timunds arrived (but rember i had been waring since day 1)...also note that they were still able to beat me mostly :P

The mongols come around turn 90 if i recall. They usually come from around bagdad area. As the turks they will hit you first and hard.If you want read the guide i wrote on egpyt but apply it to the turks (as tehre unit roster is WAY better).

The timunds arrive around turn...200? i rember they came about 10 turns before the "world is round" event happend. They come from the East along the russian steps/north turkey" They are NOT as hard as the mongols, but there ellephants are god like and can shoot cannons and guns from them. Of the two, they are easyer to deal with beacuse they come later and you have your best units avalible that will cut through theres. For the most part ther emakeup is simmilar to an egyptan army, with horse archers, halberders, foot archers and of course, elephants.

Either way, dont take your heavy infantry outside to meet them...thats just asking for trouble :P

**pevergreen** · 12-05-2006, 23:57

Aha! I knew my screenshots would come in handy!

There are 3 invasions, each after each other. Get Read 1184 because they come then or 1186.

**Lord Condormanius** · 12-06-2006, 00:13

I hope those aren't supposed to be the Mongols dressed in plaid and walking!

**IPoseTheQuestionYouReturnTheAnswer** · 12-06-2006, 00:51

That's interesting. It's 1280 in my game, and the Mongols still haven't arrived. I got the warning for them in 1205 saying they were in China, but I have yet to see them anywhere. I'm playing the Turks too, so I couldn't have missed them. Does setting the timescale to 1.00 screw up these events?

**supadodo** · 12-06-2006, 01:18

Nah I set my timesale to 1.00 and they showed(too quickly I might add) anyways I defeated two waves and am now waiting for the third. For some reason they wont attack Baghdad, Mosul rarely. They always head to Antioch and seige it . Haha I just sit back and let my Cannon Towers beat the sh1t out of them

Also I have found out that Jans do really well against them, at least better than spear militia and saracens. I once attack them with an army of HAs and two Jans. Well my HAs got totalled but when they charge their Heavy Lancers at my Jans, they actually survived and killed lots of horseys.

**Quillan** · 12-06-2006, 02:33

Playing at 1 year per turn, I've gotten the warning in 1208 AD in two campaigns now, with the actual arrival of the first wave 4-5 years later. You could have missed them, you know. They can show up anyplace from Bulgar to Baghdad, so if they appear in the north and move west they'd skip you completely. There may also be a trigger tied to province ownership. It might not have them arrive if the human player owns their arrival province, I'm not sure about that one. If you own all 5 of those, they may be lost indefinitely.

**IPoseTheQuestionYouReturnTheAnswer** · 12-06-2006, 04:32

Then something is wrong. I got the warning in 1205, and it's 1280 now. I own 4/5 arrival provinces - Baghdad, Yerevan, Tblisi, and Sarkel, but I do not have Bulgar.

This is odd. What could have broken this? I thought something was up when I saw that elephants and elephant arty were avaliable as mercenaries, yet I hadn't even seen the Mongols or Timurids yet.