0.8x AI Faction Progression

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Here is my KH campaign, 242 BC (using EB.exe):



It's been a very interesting campaign so far, and things are about to get a whole lot more interesting. I started out fairly weak, but after a decade I took out Makedonia. Before I started taking out Epeiros, their kingdom stretched from the Italy to the southwestern coasts of the Black Sea. Of course, you can see I took care of that.

They have been a huge thorn in Rome's side for most of the game, have beseiged Rome and Capua on numerous occassions. However, Rome and Carthage have been the most loyal allies I have ever seen, and Carthage has sent numerous stacks into Italy to help fight back the Epeirotes. However, in the past couple turns, a peace treaty has been signed. Now, Rome has taken Aeudi lands, and are now left with a decision. I wonder if this bodes well for me, since after taking Segestica, I now share a border with Roman lands.

Carthage was quiet for the first couple decades, but now are steadily progressing up the seaboard, and are now at war with the Aeudi and the Lusotannians, who have done little themselves. They are, however, allied with the Arverni, which makes me wonder what will come to pass. Will Rome declare war on the Arverni, triggering a war with their BFF? Or will they turn northeast, toward the Sweboz? Or will they turn against me???

The Sweboz were on a little rampage a few years ago, but a few setbacks have slowed that down. They are at war with the Arverni, but have yet to engage them in battle. The Casse are slowly, gradually building up armies and beseiging settlements.

Pontos, Armenia, Sauromatae, and the Getai have done absolutely nothing.

The Ptolemies are the beast in the east I'm worried about. They have nearly taken all of Anatolia, are currently beseing the Seleukids' last stronghold there (Ipsos), and have laid seige to my city of Halicarnassus numerous times. Luckily, my walls have yet been breached, but each stack they send keeps getting bigger, so my focus may shift there soon. If Rome lets me....

As for the Seleukids, after getting pushed out of the Levant and Anatolia, they are about to wipe out Pahlava. And after the Sabeans got out to a great start, taking most of Arabia, they are losing the war with the Seleukids, and a few of their settlements rebelled.

Bactria has yet to wage war on the Seleukids, but have waged war on the Saka, taking one settlement, and sending armies north. They are also venturing toward India, but a war with the Seleukids cannot be far off.

Lastly, a war between the Ptolemies and Carthage recently incited over Kyrene. Carthage took it first, but the Ptolemies quickly seized it. Now, though Carthage seems to be focusing on Europe, they have the richest treasuries in all the lands, so they may start a two-front war of their own soon.

All in all, looks like I'm in the beginnings of World War 0 here! Awesome game, guys!

[-Praetor-]

Romani.



***Seleukids are pretty much holding: losing on the levant, and gaining on the arabian peninsula.

***Saba has only 2 provinces, en route to conquer their third.

***Both gallic factions are pretty active, specially the aeduii, which have full stacks on Massillia and Mediolanum. It will be thrilling to conquer gaul.

***Carthage have gained domain over a lot of african provinces, and it won`t be long before I see a mayor clash between Carthage and the Ptolies.

***Lusitanii are progressing VERY well, they have 3 provinces and are sieging a fourth, with great chances to succeed.

***Britons are progressing slowly but steady.

***Koinon Hellenon is giving the Maks a pounding!!! They have a lot of sh** heading for the maks...

***Sweboz are just sitting there

***Sarmatae have conquered a caucasian province, but haven`t went farther ahead.

***Saka are looking good, but they haven`t got many units... dunno, perhaps a population problem?

***Parthians have lost their southern province... what`s going on with them that in every game they got their arses kicked??????

***And I strongly suggest that something should be done about the getai, they rarely expand, and I think that my campaign is a very rare exception.



Despite some expansion problems, I love this game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Oleo]

***Parthians have lost their southern province... what`s going on with them that in every game they got their arses kicked??????

Everyone except this one , Getai not doing so bad here either.

Macedon campaign 250 BC, I had to drop my casse campaign, cause of a unpassable ctd in the macedonAI-turn, so I figured I start fresh as Macedon.



p.s. I edited the Sahara region, though I prefer not to, I just really wanted to be sure to have had one game without Carthage-Ptolemy full scale wars.

[Ower]

Me Epiros camping


I am curently in war whit Rome, which are besieging my Capua whit their last strong army full of Sarmatians I have accepted to becom their Protctorat 2*times but they have atecet me at in the same turn (so it busted me treasury for free )
Probly an war whit th KH because there is nothing between us exept Theremon. They took Korinthos and are besieging Chalkis (is it allright that from Athen tu Chalkis, send armies whit out a boat?? , the same from sicily to itally)

The AS and the Ptolemayos are pounding one another again.
Saba has 2 provinces and heading for their 3.
Pontus took Nicodemia, Saka took one setelment, Bactria advances east(curentli besieging kophen), but has some stacks ready on the border Whit AS wich is in war whit Pahlava, Hayasdan (after tacking Kotais) has a full stack but doing nothing after one smal stack has been beaten at Kabalaka

Sauromate and Casse ain´t doing nothing. As the Getai after grabing the province west from them.

Lusotan marches a full stack to Numantia.
The Arweni are besieging Lemonum and Burdigala, while the Adui are pounding hard on the Arveni (but with no succes).
Carthage advances slowly in africa, has 2 full stacks in iberia rhat are doing nothing.
The Sweboz are trying to take the rebels whit tiny stacks, while their full stack army just sits at their capital.

[Casuir]

Nother 20 years as Casse.

Lusotan started off good then froze, same with Hayasdan, think they have a problem.
Getai still havent budged.
Macedon and pontus both wiped out by the greeks, Epirotes heading for the steppes.
Pahlava, Bactria and Saba all seem to be going well.
Saka looked out of it then briefly retook one of the provinces Baktria had taken from them.
Sarmatians look better than they are, two of their provinces were picked up through rebellion, the last of which left them at war with Epiros.
Sweboz started heading east soon as I took both belgian provinces,
Aedui headed north and hit me with a lot of stuff including a good few massilian hoplites, came at me in waves every couple of years, looked real dodgy at times but they look spent now. Averni are moving in to pick up the pieces.
Cartage and Rome still squabbling over islands.
Ptolomies have the seleucids on the ropes, they're getting real scary looking.

[Grand Lord of Poop~]

if you actually observe closely, the macedonians are losing or wiped out on almost everyone's campaign!! And you guys want to nerf them even more in the upcoming version!?

[Ower]

I observered it to, I played some test campaings (casse, pahlav, hayasdan) and they were always losing.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Nother 20 years as Casse.

Haha! Pontos got sucker punched. They tried to take Sinope, failed to hold it, then those KH troops that they created took Amaseia and destroyed Pontos as a faction. First time I've seen that happen.

Love to see these really longer term campaigns. We see a ton of 262 and 252 ones, but the longer folks play, the more interested we are in seeing what happens.

Were you playing on bi.exe Casuir? Seeing the romans put ashore at Thermon makes me think so.

[Casuir]

Were you playing on bi.exe Casuir? Seeing the romans put ashore at Thermon makes me think so.

Yep, lot of fighting for the islands going on. I'll try and keep updating, but the turns are getting longer and spare time is getting shorter

[Oleo]

Macedon campaign 250 BC

230 BC:



210 BC:



- Sweboz started expanding big time, after I gave him a couple of 100000 Mnai and bribed them a 3rd and 4th city

- Casse started expanding after giving them 100000.

- Sauromatae still havent done anything with the 300000 I gave them.

I had way to much money, I figured I give something away .

- Seleucids are getting owned and are protectorate of Saba, I didnt touch them except for Sardis and Ipsus when they betrayed me.

- I gave Ptolemais-Theron (Erithrea) and Bostra to Saba, cause I didnt want it to be ptolemy and I didnt want them for myself.

-Saka was about to be destroyed 5 years earlier, I guess baktria screwed up and lost two cities back to them

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Radier - please post pics of your minimap (fog of war off so we can see)! Romans are very rarely (very) defeated like that - but we'd love to see proof of it.

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Oleo - a very interesting set of pics.
-I love that getai empire
-the Carthaginians taking over all of iberia is good to see sometimes
-I also love that Baktrian empire and the way the parthians have expanded into their own empire in the right place (if they could continue to knock out the seleukids and even some soutwest baktrians that'd be great)

[Moros]

Radier - please post pics of your minimap (fog of war off so we can see)! Romans are very rarely (very) defeated like that - but we'd love to see proof of it.

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Oleo - a very interesting set of pics.
-I love that getai empire
-the Carthaginians taking over all of iberia is good to see sometimes
-I also love that Baktrian empire and the way the parthians have expanded into their own empire in the right place (if they could continue to knock out the seleukids and even some soutwest baktrians that'd be great)

He defeated them, not an AI faction.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

He defeated them, not an AI faction.

Did he? As the Casse in 20 years I would think that a challenge. He didn't say that he did it that I saw - just that the Romans "were" destroyed. Was there a map somewhere?

Either way, the answer is 'no'. They can't reappear if they've been wiped out.

[Oleo]

10 years later (200 BC):

Oleo - a very interesting set of pics.
-I also love that Baktrian empire and the way the parthians have expanded into their own empire in the right place (if they could continue to knock out the seleukids and even some soutwest baktrians that'd be great)

Baktria is just to strong I guess.

[Constantine the Great]

Wow, thats the first I've seen of Getai actually doing stuff.

[Kugutsu]

Playing Hayasdan, at about 245BC.


Casse: Not really doing much. Have a stack, but its just sitting there.

Sweboz: Again, not much action here.

Aedui: Fighting hard against the Romans. Also have Dalminion in the Balkans and Ankyra, but Epeiros is seiging the former and the Seleukids are about to take the latter.

Arverni: The Romans have all but crushed them. One city left, and a single stack of army. I doubt they'll last much longer.

Lusotann: No action here that I can see, not even an army. They seem to be sitting in their city with 4 units, 2 of them generals...

Rome: Heavy expansion into gaul. They have about 10 armies rampaging round france, and are really pushing the gauls hard. They are currently allied to the Carthaginians, though it wont be long before they meet in Spain...

Carthage: Working their way up through Spain. I think they are also trying to take Kyrene, but with no success so far.

Epeiros:Together with KH they have pushed the Macedonians to Lesbos. They are wading through the Balkans city by city.

KH: Helped the Epeirots push the Macs out of Greece, but seem to have stalled now.

Getai: Not doing anything.

Ptolomaics: Part of the three way anti-Seleukid alliance. Turkey and the middle-east change hands about twice a decade...

Saba: Also part of the anti-Seleukid alliance. Strong presence in Palmyra, gaurding the Ptolies flank, allowing them to concentrate on Antioch and Turkey.

Pontus: Have stayed pretty neutral in the regional troubles, snapping up the coastal cities of Sinope and Nikaia. Will probably try Pergamon next if they remain true to form.

Sauromatai: Have gained a couple of provinces in the north, but seem to be so debt ridden that they cant afford any troops or buildings. I relieved them of Kabalaka through bribery (they are my allies, after all, so I didnt want to attack them) and they had built very little there.
Parthia. Battling with Bactria. Coming off worse...

Saka: Not doing a great deal.

Bactria: Quite a powerhouse in the east. Still allied to Seleukia, not sure how, as they have about 5 full stacks sitting near Seleukid cities... A full stack marching through India, and about 5 in the north, either heading for Sulek, or attacking Parthia.

Seleukids: Insanely powerful and rich. They are sending armies of Argyraspidai and Kataphracts against me, and are holding against the combined armies of the Ptolies and the Saba to the south. They lost most of the near east to the Ptolies, but have since won it back and are counterattacking in Turkey. They also have 3 full stacks wandering round Arabia, which may come as a nasty shock to the Saba...

Hayasdan: I am expanding nicely in the Caucasian mountains. Am allied to Sauromatae, as I have no interest in going north, and the Ptolies and Saba as part of a three way alliance to counter the Seleukids. Im about to launch an invasion of the plain once I have gathered my armies for a counter-offensive...

One thing I am pleasantly surprised by is the stability of alliances. Rome and Carthage have been alied for a while, and are carving western europe between them, Epeiros and KH allied to oust the Macedonians in Greece and our little triple-entente has helped each other out of tight spots on quite a few occasions. The Ptolies and the Saba are particularly close, rescuing each other quite frequently from the Seleukids, and not squabbling over the middle east as I would have expected.

[Conqueror]

Kart-Hadast campaign @ 229 BC.

Eastern Mediterranean:

The Makedonians were on the brink of destruction when I decided to intervene in the war in Greece (partly because I wanted to snatch Rhodos for myself but didn't want to lose trade with southern Greece, so KH hegemony there was against my interests). I built an elite invasion army and, using Krete as a base, launched a naval invasion which took the city states completely by surprise. In a quick succession I seized poorly defended Korinthos and Sparte, and handed their governance over to the Makedonians. Then I destroyed two KH armies near Athenai before withdrawing back to Krete. The KH were unable to recover from this shock and the Makedonians went on the offensive, while I sailed over to my real target, Rhodos. Soon the only free polis worth note was Athenai, which became protectorate to Makedonia. Now both Athenai and Makedonia are my allies and trade is flowing nicely, though occationally interrupted by Ptolemaic fleets that blockade my ports. The Maks have even strenghtened to a point where they are doing progress agains the Epirote empire - they just recently took Pella back, having lost it very early in the game.

Speaking of Ptolemaioi, they are clearly the most powerful faction in the game. The Seleukids are almost completely finished off and I doubt that any other AI faction will be able to resist the onslaught of the Ptolemaic juggernaut. They declared war on me soon after capturing Kyrene and I am spending my time building up for a massive attack. It'll be a real clash of titans when I'll take the fight to Egypt, although I have no idea how I could possibly hold on to those huge cities on the Nile. I fear it'll turn into a sick extermination fest like none the world has seen

Western Mediterranean:

The Lusotannan are no more. During the entire game they had done absolutely nothing, save for futile attacks on Sucum-Murgi with far too small armies while most of their troops sat on their behinds in Oxtraca. I foolishly though that I could conquer them, boy was i wrong. I did destroyed them as a faction, but it turned out that Oxtraca was completely uncontrollable despite being exterminated *twice*. In the end, the underdeveloped town just wasn't worth the effort to keep it so I abandoned it to the hapless rebels. I took over Sucum-Murgi myself (which actually submitted like an obedient puppy despite being much larger in population than Oxtraca...) but it's questionable how long I can hold on to it. There are some BIG scary rebel stacks wandering in Carpetania.

The romani have been kicked out of Italy. It was bound to happen as soon as I lost interest in actively thwarting the Epirotes with spies and assassins. They have remained my faithful ally since the beginning of the game, no punic wars in this one. It'll be interesting to see how much longer they manage to hold on.

Elsewhere

Sabyn are doing surprisingly well, while Baktrians have a crazy empire stretching (and bending) from the Persian coast to the western steppes. They appear to have no interest in going to India, or it could simply be that the rebels are too strong in there. Getain seem to have done a bit of expanding and Sweboz look to be doing nicely, if not quite spectacularly. The celtic factions and Armenia & Pontos aren't much to speak of. Pahlava is now providing a buffer zone between the Ptolemies and Baktrians.