Org Mobile Site
I've been playing on timescale 1.0 for a while now and got frustrated that I never got around to fighting the mongols, get gunpoweder, see the timurids or visit america, so I did a bit of digging around in the files and came up with a solution.
This is useful for anyone really who uses any timescale (including default) to make the game more fun (yet probably slightly less historically accurate) to play with.
To do that, you need to go to the desc_events.txt and firstly remove the read-only marker on it.
Nextly, you'll find a lot of words and numbers in that file. THe numbers after the word "date" mean when those events appear.
Note that date here refers to years, not turns. That means if you play under timescale 2.0, those dates means [turns played]/2 and for timescale 1.0 means [turns played].
Sometimes there is a second date given, this is the last date that this event will possibly occur (boundary)
That is really the interesting part as you can modify those numbers to fit your needs and thus determine when you want which events to occur!
Of course thats not where it ends. You can now also go to the descr_mercenaries.txt file and change when various mercenaries appear. If you made the mongols appear early or gunpowder develop earlier, you might want to change a few dates there as well to suit the changes. The changes there are more strightforward as they just mention the date (the year) things become available and until when.
Happy editing and enjoying a more fun M2TW!
Let me know if you experience any problems with this or any feedback
This is useful for anyone really who uses any timescale (including default) to make the game more fun (yet probably slightly less historically accurate) to play with.
To do that, you need to go to the desc_events.txt and firstly remove the read-only marker on it.
Nextly, you'll find a lot of words and numbers in that file. THe numbers after the word "date" mean when those events appear.
Note that date here refers to years, not turns. That means if you play under timescale 2.0, those dates means [turns played]/2 and for timescale 1.0 means [turns played].
Sometimes there is a second date given, this is the last date that this event will possibly occur (boundary)
That is really the interesting part as you can modify those numbers to fit your needs and thus determine when you want which events to occur!
Of course thats not where it ends. You can now also go to the descr_mercenaries.txt file and change when various mercenaries appear. If you made the mongols appear early or gunpowder develop earlier, you might want to change a few dates there as well to suit the changes. The changes there are more strightforward as they just mention the date (the year) things become available and until when.
Happy editing and enjoying a more fun M2TW!
Let me know if you experience any problems with this or any feedback
Excellent. Thanks.
I'm playing on 0.5, it's about 1125. I've been playing since Sunday I think, so errm at this rate this game will go on forever lol. But I like it, I like to be able to build up my empire and make it extremely strong financially. I also like to meet high tech enemies not some foolish rabble which routs in 20 seconds.
I'm gonna have a look into this, might want to pull up events a bit.
I'm playing on 0.5, it's about 1125. I've been playing since Sunday I think, so errm at this rate this game will go on forever lol. But I like it, I like to be able to build up my empire and make it extremely strong financially. I also like to meet high tech enemies not some foolish rabble which routs in 20 seconds.
I'm gonna have a look into this, might want to pull up events a bit.
Did anyone try a 1.5 scale? 1.0 is somehow to slow for me and 2.0 is to fast...
You might be interested in MedManager. The new version allows you to adjust the time scale for an existing game. So you do not have to start a completely new campaign to try out different time scales.
It will also allow you to change other things, like showing the date rather than the turn number.
You can also change the end date for the campaign. So if you are finding things are too easy for you, and you have ages to go until 1530, why don't you set the end date for say 10 years time, and then race to the end!
It will also allow you to change other things, like showing the date rather than the turn number.
You can also change the end date for the campaign. So if you are finding things are too easy for you, and you have ages to go until 1530, why don't you set the end date for say 10 years time, and then race to the end!
The default time scale is too fast...though I got 47 regions..I never got near america..or jerusalem.
But then I did play the english. I know you can modify the file..but I would have liked to have seen an option to select how long years are..and a more realistic campaign goal...and a non war one like MTW
But then I did play the english. I know you can modify the file..but I would have liked to have seen an option to select how long years are..and a more realistic campaign goal...and a non war one like MTW
How do we adjust the timescale, then?
Originally Posted by Bucky_Rogers:
How do we adjust the timescale, then?
As is stated above use the medmanager or else BEFORE starting a new campaign:How do we adjust the timescale, then?
Medieval II Total War\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign
descr_strat file
1. Backupthis file.
2. Change turn scale from 2 to 0.5
3. Change file properties to write enabled
4. Save
Originally Posted by Faction Heir:
I've been playing on timescale 1.0 for a while now and got frustrated that I never got around to fighting the mongols, get gunpoweder, see the timurids or visit america, so I did a bit of digging around in the files and came up with a solution.
This is useful for anyone really who uses any timescale (including default) to make the game more fun (yet probably slightly less historically accurate) to play with.
To do that, you need to go to the desc_events.txt and firstly remove the read-only marker on it.
Nextly, you'll find a lot of words and numbers in that file. THe numbers after the word "date" mean when those events appear.
Note that date here refers to years, not turns. That means if you play under timescale 2.0, those dates means [turns played]/2 and for timescale 1.0 means [turns played].
Sometimes there is a second date given, this is the last date that this event will possibly occur (boundary)
That is really the interesting part as you can modify those numbers to fit your needs and thus determine when you want which events to occur!
Of course thats not where it ends. You can now also go to the descr_mercenaries.txt file and change when various mercenaries appear. If you made the mongols appear early or gunpowder develop earlier, you might want to change a few dates there as well to suit the changes. The changes there are more strightforward as they just mention the date (the year) things become available and until when.
Happy editing and enjoying a more fun M2TW!
Let me know if you experience any problems with this or any feedback
Can I change this in the middle of a game ?I've been playing on timescale 1.0 for a while now and got frustrated that I never got around to fighting the mongols, get gunpoweder, see the timurids or visit america, so I did a bit of digging around in the files and came up with a solution.
This is useful for anyone really who uses any timescale (including default) to make the game more fun (yet probably slightly less historically accurate) to play with.
To do that, you need to go to the desc_events.txt and firstly remove the read-only marker on it.
Nextly, you'll find a lot of words and numbers in that file. THe numbers after the word "date" mean when those events appear.
Note that date here refers to years, not turns. That means if you play under timescale 2.0, those dates means [turns played]/2 and for timescale 1.0 means [turns played].
Sometimes there is a second date given, this is the last date that this event will possibly occur (boundary)
That is really the interesting part as you can modify those numbers to fit your needs and thus determine when you want which events to occur!
Of course thats not where it ends. You can now also go to the descr_mercenaries.txt file and change when various mercenaries appear. If you made the mongols appear early or gunpowder develop earlier, you might want to change a few dates there as well to suit the changes. The changes there are more strightforward as they just mention the date (the year) things become available and until when.
Happy editing and enjoying a more fun M2TW!
Let me know if you experience any problems with this or any feedback
Also can you please tell me when the following will occur in my game. I'm playing on 0.5 scale.
Code:
event historic first_rudder date 100 event historic first_magnetic_compass date 102 event historic science_maths_zero_europe date 122 event historic mongols_invasion_warn date 128 144 event historic gunpowder_discovered date 160 170 movie event/gunpowder_invented.bik event earthquake earthquake_in_alexandria date 222 position 230, 38 event earthquake earthquake_in_alexandria_2 date 232 position 230, 38 event plague black_death_hits date 266 event plague black_death_2 date 270 event plague black_death_4 date 274 event historic first_blast_furnace date 270 event historic timurids_invasion_warn date 288 304 event historic world_is_round date 320 328 event historic science_de_docta_ignorantia date 364
Originally Posted by ShellShock:
You might be interested in MedManager. The new version allows you to adjust the time scale for an existing game. So you do not have to start a completely new campaign to try out different time scales.
It will also allow you to change other things, like showing the date rather than the turn number.
You can also change the end date for the campaign. So if you are finding things are too easy for you, and you have ages to go until 1530, why don't you set the end date for say 10 years time, and then race to the end!
That's a cool programme. THANKS !You might be interested in MedManager. The new version allows you to adjust the time scale for an existing game. So you do not have to start a completely new campaign to try out different time scales.
It will also allow you to change other things, like showing the date rather than the turn number.
You can also change the end date for the campaign. So if you are finding things are too easy for you, and you have ages to go until 1530, why don't you set the end date for say 10 years time, and then race to the end!
sorry dbl post.
Sinan, I believe the first event will occur in turn 200 for you, if I have it worked out right.
The number corresponds to the amount of years that pass. So if the event has a number of 100, on timescale of 2 where each turn is 2 years, that's turn 50. If you changed it to .5, or half a year per turn, multiplied by 100 years, would be turn 200.
The number corresponds to the amount of years that pass. So if the event has a number of 100, on timescale of 2 where each turn is 2 years, that's turn 50. If you changed it to .5, or half a year per turn, multiplied by 100 years, would be turn 200.
Too bad it doesn't work if I already have a savegame.
Originally Posted by Aelwyn:
Sinan, I believe the first event will occur in turn 200 for you, if I have it worked out right.
The number corresponds to the amount of years that pass. So if the event has a number of 100, on timescale of 2 where each turn is 2 years, that's turn 50. If you changed it to .5, or half a year per turn, multiplied by 100 years, would be turn 200.
Yeah that's right, I just tested it. I divided the first windmill date of 50 by 4 to get 12 and it happened in turn 25 with the 0.5 timescale (after 24 turns because of the integer value). 25 turns in the 2 year timescale is 50 years so it's 1 year too early, but only 1 year. Sinan, I believe the first event will occur in turn 200 for you, if I have it worked out right.
The number corresponds to the amount of years that pass. So if the event has a number of 100, on timescale of 2 where each turn is 2 years, that's turn 50. If you changed it to .5, or half a year per turn, multiplied by 100 years, would be turn 200.
I edited my descr_events.txt dividing each year value by 4. I do not know what the dates with 2 values mean, but i assumed those where either the range of dates e.g. the mongols could appear or the initial year of appearance and the years later they appear. Either way I divided both by 4.
You can try this file, see how it works for you but no warranty, etc. I may have made a mistake. If you want to try this, create a backup of descr_events.txt before doing anything. It will give the mongols on or around turn 64 like the original would.
Code:
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;; EVENT LIST ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; event historic first_windmill date 12 event historic earthquake_in_aleppo date 14 position 257, 73 event historic science_alchemy_book date 16 event historic first_european_paper date 18 event historic first_rudder date 25 event historic first_magnetic_compass date 26 event historic first_wheelbarrow date 30 event historic science_maths_zero_europe date 31 ; ------------ CORE GAME EVENT -------------- event historic mongols_invasion_warn date 32 36 ; ------------ CORE GAME EVENT -------------- event historic gunpowder_discovered date 40 42 movie event/gunpowder_invented.bik event earthquake earthquake_in_silicia date 47 position 232, 76 event historic first_mechanical_clock date 50 event historic first_eyeglasses date 51 event earthquake earthquake_in_alexandria date 55 position 230, 38 event earthquake earthquake_in_alexandria_2 date 58 position 230, 38 event historic football_banned date 59 event historic first_sawmill date 62 event historic first_public_clock date 63 event historic science_weather_forecast date 64 ; ------------ CORE GAME EVENT -------------- event plague black_death_hits date 65 position 281, 163 position 258, 134 position 233, 117 position 278, 109 movie event/black_death.bik event plague black_death_1 date 67 position 278, 101 position 258, 104 position 213, 92 position 216, 88 position 209, 73 position 230, 38 position 232, 76 position 150, 70 position 132, 76 position 131, 92 position 120, 99 position 133, 104 position 146, 108 position 136, 111 position 157, 82 position 168, 95 position 190, 85 position 191, 71 position 175, 87 position 194, 99 position 93, 95 position 77, 73 position 92, 83 position 97, 114 position 105, 104 position 121, 122 position 129, 119 position 160, 108 position 249, 44 position 246, 76 position 241, 65 position 232, 76 position 245, 85 position 251, 57 position 254, 51 position 214, 65 position 202, 57 event plague black_death_2 date 68 position 281, 79 position 259, 64 position 257, 73 position 136, 63 position 103, 66 position 71, 80 position 107, 155 position 201, 109 position 74, 104 position 55, 88 position 109, 147 position 78, 90 position 115, 143 position 120, 144 position 113, 131 position 163, 124 position 94, 157 position 132, 126 position 119, 133 position 148, 147 position 143, 120 position 138, 139 position 125, 131 position 104, 134 position 94, 130 position 102, 126 position 235, 32 position 291, 70 position 251, 73 position 265, 80 position 150, 40 position 90, 101 event plague black_death_3 date 69 position 205, 125 position 196, 114 position 99, 181 position 102, 74 position 90, 162 position 142, 187 position 106, 164 position 157, 136 position 172, 122 position 148, 147 position 141, 154 position 141, 166 position 174, 136 position 192, 140 position 163, 143 position 228, 2 position 268, 13 event plague black_death_4 date 70 position 235, 169 position 202, 179 position 181, 174 position 188, 186 position 167, 183 position 169, 151 position 217, 139 position 212, 162 position 189, 158 position 155, 155 position 244, 158 event historic first_blast_furnace date 67 event historic grote_mandenke date 71 ; ------------ CORE GAME EVENT -------------- event historic timurids_invasion_warn date 72 76 event historic first_piano date 80 ; ------------ CORE GAME EVENT -------------- event historic world_is_round date 80 82 event historic first_oil_painting date 85 event historic science_de_docta_ignorantia date 91 ; ------------ CORE GAME EVENT -------------- ;TRUE TIME event historic world_is_round ;TRUE TIME date 366 374 event historic first_printing_press date 93 event earthquake earthquake_in_naples date 94 position 157, 82 event historic malleus_maleficarum date 102 event historic science_da_vinci_ornithopter date 103 event historic first_watch date 107 ; ------------ OLD EVENT EXAMPLES -------------- ;event volcano eruption_at_vesuvius ;date 99 ;position 103, 65 ;event plague plague_in_asia_minor ;date 173 ;position 192, 68 ;position 200, 55 ;position 190, 80
Got it. Thanks !
Originally Posted by Lord Magus:
Too bad it doesn't work if I already have a savegame.
If you mean the MedManager. It does, you can modify the savegame with it and it works.Too bad it doesn't work if I already have a savegame.
How?
Because I made a mod with a 1 year per turn timescale and I want to use it with the patch.
Because I made a mod with a 1 year per turn timescale and I want to use it with the patch.
Magus Did you read this post a few posts above ?
Install that programme, with it you can modify your savegames at any time. It's neat.
Originally Posted by ShellShock:
You might be interested in MedManager. The new version allows you to adjust the time scale for an existing game. So you do not have to start a completely new campaign to try out different time scales.
It will also allow you to change other things, like showing the date rather than the turn number.
You can also change the end date for the campaign. So if you are finding things are too easy for you, and you have ages to go until 1530, why don't you set the end date for say 10 years time, and then race to the end!
You might be interested in MedManager. The new version allows you to adjust the time scale for an existing game. So you do not have to start a completely new campaign to try out different time scales.
It will also allow you to change other things, like showing the date rather than the turn number.
You can also change the end date for the campaign. So if you are finding things are too easy for you, and you have ages to go until 1530, why don't you set the end date for say 10 years time, and then race to the end!
Install that programme, with it you can modify your savegames at any time. It's neat.
So how do I use the patch with my save?
1. Download the patch folder.
2. Extract the patch folder.
3. Click the setup exe in that folder.
4. (Now the patch is installed) Launch the game.
5. Load your savgame.
Savegames ARE compatible with the patch.
If you want to modify the speed in the middle of the campaign, the Medmanager is great.
2. Extract the patch folder.
3. Click the setup exe in that folder.
4. (Now the patch is installed) Launch the game.
5. Load your savgame.
Savegames ARE compatible with the patch.
If you want to modify the speed in the middle of the campaign, the Medmanager is great.
I mean I created a mod using MedManager, and my save game is there, I can just transfer it to the main saves folder and use it with the patch?
Yeah, sure. Why not ?
Because once I edited the original files without the MedManager and then loaded a save, it didn't work.
And is there a way I can test if the save was patched?
And is there a way I can test if the save was patched?
The only way to test is to load the game.
Hey I need some help.
I want to Change mercenary availibility dates and frequency.
Can anyone please tell me step by step how to do this using MedManager or otherwise ?
Many thanks !.
Hey I need some help.
I want to Change mercenary availibility dates and frequency.
Can anyone please tell me step by step how to do this using MedManager or otherwise ?
Many thanks !.
I mean to check if a bug was fixed or something.
I personally think that anything else than timescale 0.5 feels wrong, so I've modified events, the starting date, buiding construction times, city pop levels to grow etc... - my campaign starts in 1270 and ends in 1500, everyone ages a year in a year, it doesn't take 4 years to go from Edinborough to London by horse etc... and I'm fine with that.
Originally Posted by Niccolo Machiavelli:
I personally think that anything else than timescale 0.5 feels wrong, so I've modified events, the starting date, buiding construction times, city pop levels to grow etc... - my campaign starts in 1270 and ends in 1500, everyone ages a year in a year, it doesn't take 4 years to go from Edinborough to London by horse etc... and I'm fine with that.
Sweet, so you have basically done a High Era mod... Nice...I personally think that anything else than timescale 0.5 feels wrong, so I've modified events, the starting date, buiding construction times, city pop levels to grow etc... - my campaign starts in 1270 and ends in 1500, everyone ages a year in a year, it doesn't take 4 years to go from Edinborough to London by horse etc... and I'm fine with that.
@Bob: Actually not - I didn't change anything about the starting conditions, so basically, the game is the same - I've just compressed the campaign to 230 years, which resembles 460 turns on timescale 0.5 whilst roughly doubling building construction times and cost to roughly strikes a balance between the 225 (iirc) turns in 450 years on timescale 2 and my timeline.
Originally Posted by Niccolo Machiavelli:
@Bob: Actually not - I didn't change anything about the starting conditions, so basically, the game is the same - I've just compressed the campaign to 230 years, which resembles 460 turns on timescale 0.5 whilst roughly doubling building construction times and cost to roughly strikes a balance between the 225 (iirc) turns in 450 years on timescale 2 and my timeline.
Well it is a first step in the right direction... I was starting to do this myself the other night but when I took a look at the campaign file I needed to to start updating and thought about the play testing that would be required to ensure balance; I gave up and continued on with my vanilla HRE game... @Bob: Actually not - I didn't change anything about the starting conditions, so basically, the game is the same - I've just compressed the campaign to 230 years, which resembles 460 turns on timescale 0.5 whilst roughly doubling building construction times and cost to roughly strikes a balance between the 225 (iirc) turns in 450 years on timescale 2 and my timeline.
Additionally, you find the doubled build times make for a good game?
I have a simple mod (that I have yet to update for the patch) which sets the TimeScale to 0.5 and increases the build times by x4 and while it takes forever to get stuff built at least the tech progression does not get out of wack. I also used part of Wonderland's SloMod to alter the base farming output of the regions (reduced by a fact of four) which seemed to help this the settlement growth getting out of hand.
I am considering using a little variety in the build times (hopefully using logic and common sense), keeping the first level building on the orginal timescale, doubling for the mid level building and keeping the x4 for the higher level buildings. I mean, approx 30 turns for a Hugh Cathedral seems long, but those things really did take 15-20 years to build...
I'd like to add some mercs, namely Tuaregs and Camel Gunners for the Turks using the medmanager or otherwise.
Can anyone help please ?
Can anyone help please ?
Sorry, I'm having a hard time figuring this out. I'm playing 2 turns/year right now. What year (not turn) will gunpowder be invented? How about discovering the New World?
Originally Posted by Bob the Insane:
Well it is a first step in the right direction... I was starting to do this myself the other night but when I took a look at the campaign file I needed to to start updating and thought about the play testing that would be required to ensure balance; I gave up and continued on with my vanilla HRE game...
Additionally, you find the doubled build times make for a good game?
I have a simple mod (that I have yet to update for the patch) which sets the TimeScale to 0.5 and increases the build times by x4 and while it takes forever to get stuff built at least the tech progression does not get out of wack. I also used part of Wonderland's SloMod to alter the base farming output of the regions (reduced by a fact of four) which seemed to help this the settlement growth getting out of hand.
I am considering using a little variety in the build times (hopefully using logic and common sense), keeping the first level building on the orginal timescale, doubling for the mid level building and keeping the x4 for the higher level buildings. I mean, approx 30 turns for a Hugh Cathedral seems long, but those things really did take 15-20 years to build...
The problem with multiplying build times is that most traits and ancillaries (the good ones certainly Well it is a first step in the right direction... I was starting to do this myself the other night but when I took a look at the campaign file I needed to to start updating and thought about the play testing that would be required to ensure balance; I gave up and continued on with my vanilla HRE game...
Additionally, you find the doubled build times make for a good game?
I have a simple mod (that I have yet to update for the patch) which sets the TimeScale to 0.5 and increases the build times by x4 and while it takes forever to get stuff built at least the tech progression does not get out of wack. I also used part of Wonderland's SloMod to alter the base farming output of the regions (reduced by a fact of four) which seemed to help this the settlement growth getting out of hand.
I am considering using a little variety in the build times (hopefully using logic and common sense), keeping the first level building on the orginal timescale, doubling for the mid level building and keeping the x4 for the higher level buildings. I mean, approx 30 turns for a Hugh Cathedral seems long, but those things really did take 15-20 years to build...
) are triggered on building completion... So essentially, your governor will sit for 30 years to have his +1 Piety from ReligiousActivity, and he will have had plenty of time to turn into a drunken gambling womanizer in the meantime 
. That's the problem with these interconnected mechanics - change one thing and you have to change everything :)
Thread Ratings provided by
Thread Ratings (Lite) -
vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO