The MIC System

**blacksnail** · 12-07-2006, 20:32

Originally Posted by Spidey

My point is this: if when you pull that local unit building card, there are no units listed, then do you just assume it's not worth your time to develop this chain of buildings?

Yes, for 0.80 that's a good rule of thumb. If you see no units at level 1 (particularly in a Homeland region), it is probably not worth your time and money to build up. Expansion and especially Outlying regions are much more likely to have regional units. Future versions of EB will, I hope, simply prevent the building of regional MICs where no regional troops are present. That's my goal for the next major version, at least.

There MAY be exceptions to this rule - recruitment is the most complex thing in this game, and even with some of our Top Secret EB Recruitment Tools it can be mind-numbing to find stuff like this - but those should be few and far between, particularly in the Homeland regions.

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 12-07-2006, 21:38

If anyone wants to start a campaign as Koinon Hellenon and have King Areus start with a unit of spartans, it's easy. Just open up descr_strat.txt and enter them into his soldiers. Here is what I'm suggesting for 0.81:

Code:

character	Areus Eurypontidos, named character, leader, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 55, , x 141, y 101
traits NaturalIntelligence 4 , NaturalCharisma 3 , NaturalEnergy 2 , Selflessness 3 , Loyalty 5 , Temperament 3 , TurnsAlive 6 , Spartiates 1 , AreusEurypontidosBiography 1 , CommandExperience 4 , GoodTactician 1 , GoodAdministrator 2 , NumancillariesAcquired 3 , YearsPassed 4
ancillaries brilliant_inventor , playwright , clerk
army
unit		greek cavalry generals bodyguard				exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		hellenistic infantry spartiateshoplitai				exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit		hellenistic missile cretan archers				exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit		greek skirmisher akontistai				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		greek infantry taxeis hoplitai				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

Just replace your old text for his units with that one. It gives him a unit of kretan archers too. They just got back from krete after all and brought some soldiers from there with them. Try that even if you play as Maks - to play against them.

Backup your descr_strat.txt file before you start messing with it though - of course!!

**Spidey** · 12-07-2006, 22:09

Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou

If anyone wants to start a campaign as Koinon Hellenon and have King Areus start with a unit of spartans, it's easy. Just open up descr_strat.txt and enter them into his soldiers. Here is what I'm suggesting for 0.81:

This should make things . . . interesting.

Also, what is the timeframe for the release of 0.81. I'm not asking for a specific date, just an idea. If it's coming in a few weeks, I'll just shift to the Roma campaign and wait for the update.

Thanks.

Spidey

**blacksnail** · 12-07-2006, 22:35

I can't say anything about update schedules, but I can say you might want to shift to the Roma game for the time being.

**Gazius** · 12-08-2006, 05:38

I personally think you should still be able to recruit local units even in the homeland. As Rome, I love being able to recruit Sarmatian heavy infantry. It does seem a little odd that I can recruit this with local MIC at level 1 though. In the peninsula at least, it seems like it doesn't actually matter what type of gov/local MIC you have, you can recruit everything that's available, though I haven't gotten far enough to thoroughly test this.

**blacksnail** · 12-08-2006, 18:22

Romani are a bit unique in this regard compared to the other factions. Initially you build the Factional MIC in just a few regions, and the Regional MIC everywhere else.

This changes later in the game...

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

If you know your late Republic-era Roman history, the reason should be self-explanatory.