Longbows are no good

[Barry Fitzgerald]

Kobal2fr...maybe time to let it rest a bit.

This England v France thing is getting out of hand...

I am Neutral on this...( non anglo saxon english! lol)

So back to the game lol!

[Kobal2fr]

@Barry : What, you think I'm biased ?

It's not a France vs England thing. If it is, I don't know who's playing France . It's a common sense vs myth thing. I was just trying to plant a seed of doubt in a rather dogmatic vision of history, just as I was trying to knock down the silly yet prevalent dogma that a crossbow cannot be dangerous when fired in an arc before. Doubt is always good .

I'm not being judgemental or a nationalistic idiot when I say the French nobles considered English archers as rabble, the French nobles were.

I myself honestly don't give a rodent's bottom about France's pride or The Greatness Of French Military History (capital letters sold separately :]) or any of that silly flagthink. Or English pride for that matter. The French military minds were by and large self-deluded, full of themselves morons back then if you ask me. Most still are to this day.

Besides, I would have thought saying "it's not the bow, it's the English military savvy" wouldn't be construed as English-bashing.

Going back to the game, I really believe that longbows are modelled OK. You can certainly re-do Azincourt with them - the stakes are a very, very nice addition, go a long way into making them superior archers, and allow for proper, 4-to-1 stacks (as opposed to MTW). They cut the French to shreds allright .