Is it only me or cannon towers are weaker then ballista towers?

[Handel]

I prefer to play a long and slow campaign with much buildings. So I keep Bordeux and Toulouse as citadels controling the advance of spaniards untill take Central Europe. So those 2 citadels repelled 1000s of spanish attacks and when the gunpowder was invented I happily built cannon towers there.
But... since I build the cannon towers they seems prety useless - they usually can't destroy a single siege machine quite unlike the ballista towers.
And yes, I man them - obviously, because it is the same attack over and over again with the same defenders.

[katank]

Cannon towers are definitely stronger. I faced Mongols with ballista towers in my game and Timurids with Cannon towers. There was a huge difference in kills.

For the cannon towers, the first salvo took down 3 elephants. The Timurid cav force was cut to shreds very quickly as their rams and siege towers were all destroyed. Against the mongols, the ballista towers killed slower.

[Somebody Else]

Castles or cities?

Incidentally - I'm pretty sure I've had huge cities without having built cannon towers (and way before the invention of gunpowder) laying waste to invaders with cannon...

[sapi]

If you check the buglist you'll notice that cannon towers sometimes shoot ballisae bolts and vice versa.

Odd :P

[Handel]

If you check the buglist you'll notice that cannon towers sometimes shoot ballisae bolts and vice versa.

Odd :P

And it seems no fix for this in the incoming patch:-(

[Derfel von Saljeth]

how you know? the patch tread on the .com of yesterday was just a fake..
We don't have a official list of fix at the moment , so lets hope


btw: any modder has checked if it is fixable by ourself?

[Dunc]

I've got cannon towers repelling Milan once every few turns in Milan. Most of the time Milan uses two siege towes, and most of the time the Cannons take both out before they reach the walls. Sometimes one makes it to the walls.

[Oaty]

Havent had a whole lot of high end settlment sieges but citadels are pretty bugged

A regular citadel fires arrows, a citadel with ballista towers still fires arrows and a citadel with cannon towers fires ballistas at least that's what's happened so far in campaign and also attempts in custom battles.

As far as cities all has worked correctly for me at least so far in campaign and custom battles.

Large cities can have ballista towers, huge cities automatically get the ballista towers with the ballista towers being a prerequiste for cannon towers.

[Handel]

So to get the cannon shots from the towers (what ever they are) I have to build only ballista towers in the cities and cannon towers in the castles? Or the opposite?

[Handel]

Listened quite carefully during the last siege - fortress with cannon towers. The sounds wes definitely of ballistas, not cannons. what the towers really shot I don't know - I am quite confused now. What the towers shot looked as firebolts wich set the siege tower in fire.

[Quillan]

When I played Byzantium, my ballista towers fired cannon balls at all cities, but not at castles. However, when I played Spain that didn't happen. It might be faction specific or area specific, since the game usually has the Byzantines lumped into either the Eastern European or Greek areas with all their stuff. The Spanish buildings list as Southern European, but for some reason their cannons are northern European. Go figure.

[Oaty]

Listened quite carefully during the last siege - fortress with cannon towers. The sounds wes definitely of ballistas, not cannons. what the towers really shot I don't know - I am quite confused now. What the towers shot looked as firebolts wich set the siege tower in fire.

The towers appear to get extra ammo while there is siege equipment in range, at least in the higher end settlements. You'll see only regular shots coming out when it is only troops but if it's a siege tower/ram or an artillery piece that wondered too close, you'll see the regular ammo fired plus a flaming shot.