Unit Guide

**Musashi** · 12-09-2006, 00:28

I would but I don't think it's fair to evaluate the units at their current level of brokenness in the stock game.

**katank** · 12-09-2006, 00:56

The stats are quite broken in many cases and thus not indicative of actual performance in combat, which makes this all the more valuable IMHO. What you see if not what you get from the unit stat tab.

I have to say, however, the fact that peasants able to rout Italian Spear Militia (equal valor captain stacks in both campaign and custom battle) etc. is fairly ridiculous.

At any rate, I'd be happy to share my experiences with my Turks. (This does happen to coincide with finals perod though). They were my favorite faction in original MTW partly due to a crazy ransoming rush I came up with but also their amazing unit roster.

**PaulTa** · 12-09-2006, 01:20

I've got the finals rush right now too Katank. No worries. I wont expect to hear from anyone who volunteers for a few weeks anyways, since everyone will be testing and playing the game to get the inside scoop on all of the different units and their effectiveness.

Would a Moderator be able to stickie this temperarily until we fill all seventeen slots for different factions?

**Molinaargh** · 12-09-2006, 01:50

Originally Posted by katank

They were my favorite faction in original MTW partly due to a crazy ransoming rush I came up with but also their amazing unit roster.

Haha, I remember reading that (and executing it!) last year. It was such a great strategy, ransoming the Egyptian nobility by surrounding the province.

I hope you guys can write guides as good and creative as those! Good luck!

**PaulTa** · 12-09-2006, 03:41

Just giving this the ol' bump for those who recently signed on.

Most of the positions are still open. In fact, only Katank and Doug have offered their services so far.

**Barry Fitzgerald** · 12-09-2006, 03:44

A noble effort by the OP, but I have to agree that until the patch is out...and balance issues looked at...maybe a it isnt a great idea!

But fire away...just have a feeling things will change somewhat shortly!

**PaulTa** · 12-09-2006, 03:56

I don't think that a patch will necessarily change the effectiveness of a unit in general. For example, the patch isn't likely to change the fact that zweihanders are excellent infantry, or that Pavise crossbowmen are the best choice for ranged battles as the germans. In a nutshell, I don't think that a patch will completely alter the utility of the units in general.

Similarly, like Katank pointed out, the stats don't always reflect the usefullness of a unit. A review of the unit and it's effectiveness, on the other hand, is most useful for a player that hasn't mastered said faction with said units.

**Musashi** · 12-09-2006, 05:57

It's not the unit stats that are broken, it's the animations. About an eighth of the units in the game are not fighting properly.

**PaulTa** · 12-09-2006, 20:04

Originally Posted by PaulTa

Just giving this the ol' bump for those who recently signed on.

Most of the positions are still open. In fact, only Katank and Doug have offered their services so far.

Same story.

**zulukiller** · 12-09-2006, 20:14

Can you post a link to Frogbeastegg's MTW unit guide so i can have a look at it to see what you want. If its not way way over the top id be intrested in doing the English faction for you with screenshots. And when the unpakers released ill actually look at the files and included the hidden stats aswell.

**PaulTa** · 12-09-2006, 20:17

http://www.totalwar.org/strategy/twug/index.html

It's basically a description of each unit and it's utility in game. Besides being really helpful for just about any level of player aside from an omniscient one, it's also really entertaining to read. A real asset to the community.