Changing courses of history and war?

[The Wizard]

That depends on how you read the first line...

Fate... is rather prominent, would you not agree?

He misuses the term. He means choice, obviously. You cannot change fate, yet he speaks of changing it constantly.

[nokhor]

but most humans believe in both free will and predestination simultaneously, with the variable being time. things that are happening in the present or future, we view as there being different outcomes and we might choose different paths. for things that have happened in the past, we believe that there is only one past, and not multiple pasts and it could only have happened the way it happenned. so free will for the present and future and 'fate' for the past. it just depends on how the observer views the event along the time continuum.

[The Wizard]

But can you interpret fate as being of the past? Does it not always apply to the future? When you speak of fate, don't you always refer to what shall happen in the future? The past is history; fate or free will, it has happened.

And, as you can see throughout the history in this forum -- that the past is something that can only have happened in one way is an opinion not held by the monks of the Org

[Marshal Murat]

I kinda think that Fate is Fate, the future result. Its the road that varies.
Oedipus would have killed his father, and married his mother, one way or another.