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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuk
    I have never been vaccinated in my life, and all my friends who got vaccinations for diseases, always got the disease. I have never had chicken pox, or anything else they vaccinate you for. If my parents heard that, they'd be laughing through the coffin! It should be a parent's decision...I think my parents made the right choice.
    Give it time

    Just because nothings happened to you doesnt mean it wouldnt happen to others....

    You seem to ignore the scientific evidence against it. While it has its purposes, it is for the most part a scam. In the big time!
    the scientific evidence in favour of vaccinations? Its a huge life-saver, and makes a lot of peoples lives a lot easier...
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    Going slightly back on-topic, it looks as though McCain's abasement and genuflection to the Religious Right isn't playing well with independents:

    McCain's favorability ratings have declined over the past nine months. Among independents, his support has dropped 15 percentage points since March. Independents were his strongest supporters when he sought the Republican nomination in 2000. The decline comes at a time when McCain is calling for sending more troops to Iraq and has aggressively reached out to conservative groups and Christian conservative leaders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    Going slightly back on-topic, it looks as though McCain's abasement and genuflection to the Religious Right isn't playing well with independents:

    McCain's favorability ratings have declined over the past nine months. Among independents, his support has dropped 15 percentage points since March. Independents were his strongest supporters when he sought the Republican nomination in 2000. The decline comes at a time when McCain is calling for sending more troops to Iraq and has aggressively reached out to conservative groups and Christian conservative leaders.
    You know, I was about to say that I'm starting to get sick of the 'religious right', but then I realized that's not it at all- I'm getting sick of the shameless pandering of Republicans to the religious right.

    It seems to me that many GOP politicians think that by coming out against gay marriage early and often, they can totally ignore the fiscally conservative side of the platform and continue with the big government, big pork, business as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou
    You know, I was about to say that I'm starting to get sick of the 'religious right', but then I realized that's not it at all- I'm getting sick of the shameless pandering of Republicans to the religious right.

    It seems to me that many GOP politicians think that by coming out against gay marriage early and often, they can totally ignore the fiscally conservative side of the platform and continue with the big government, big pork, business as usual.

    It is not religion - it is common morals (which, you are right, usually do stem from religion...). Every normal person hates child pornography, so the scumbag McCain thinks he can play the same ticket as Hilary Clinton and make him self out to be mister nice guy. Of course not only would his bill have no/little affect (on child pornographer, it would have plenty of affect on us) but I doubt it would ever be enforced/he will ever push it through. He is a scumbag and this is a popularity stunt, that he knows will appeal to religious people with morals AND NONreligious people with morals. Little 'Ol McCain is planning on running for President - that is all this is..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scurvy
    Give it time

    Just because nothings happened to you doesnt mean it wouldnt happen to others....



    the scientific evidence in favour of vaccinations? Its a huge life-saver, and makes a lot of peoples lives a lot easier...
    I'm 32. It must need a LOT of time. I came from a family of 8. No one in my family ever contracted anything serious that a vacination would have protected against. I have a lot of friends who don't vaccinate, and they are completely healthy. If you want to vaccinate, do it! Just don't try to say everyone HAS to make the same choice as you. I happen to think it is VERY UNhealthy, I do not say that parent who vaccinate their children should have them taken away. If people live a healthy life style, there is very little chance for most diseases that vaccinations are supposed to protect against. And please don't say poverty can affect that. Even Africans who have to draw water from a well can stay clean and live a healthy lifestyle. Of course people can get a disease that is in no way their fault, but from my own experience, I think vaccinations do no good at all, but only harm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuk
    . If people live a healthy life style, there is very little chance for most diseases that vaccinations are supposed to protect against. And please don't say poverty can affect that. Even Africans who have to draw water from a well can stay clean and live a healthy lifestyle.
    Its hard to stay clean without soap etc, and diet very much effects health - with less healthy food normally being cheaper --> poverty can effect it! --> although i agree a healthy lifestyle helps too

    Of course people can get a disease that is in no way their fault, but from my own experience, I think vaccinations do no good at all, but only harm.
    I don;t know enough about vaccinations to know if they are good/bad, but i thought they effectively gave you imunisation from a certain disease, how is that harmful?

    Do what you think best, I plan to do what I think best (when I get married and have kids of my own I mean).
    I agree noone should be forced to have vaccinations, or for their childrn to do so, however if there was a vaccination that was known to be effective against a particularly lethal disease/problem, surely it would be in the childs best interest to do so.. (although i would have worries about a law forcing such actions, parents should be given as much responisibilty as possible for their children's upbringings...)

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    Only the most extreme cases of poverty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuk
    Only the most extreme cases of poverty.

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