What is the Hardest faction in the game

**Burns** · 12-13-2006, 01:24

So yeah, I've been wondering, what is the hardest faction to play for overall in the game in your opinion. By that i mean the campaighn game

**Quickening** · 12-13-2006, 01:26

In my opinion it is the HRE. Purely because of their position. Also Im never fond of starting with lots of regions. It confuses my starting game. Have to point out that Im choosing from the initially unlocked factions not the unlockable ones.

**IrishArmenian** · 12-13-2006, 01:34

Not sure. Scotland needs gunners, badly! even Just Arquebueisers (sp?), HRE starts out in a bad area, Poland does too. Byzantines rapidly die out and the Danes have it tough, being sandwhiched between Poland, HRE and later Russia. Egypt is hard as soon as the Horde hits and Crusading armies are everywhere.

**Gampie** · 12-13-2006, 01:38

HRE (surrounded position) and Turkey (poor starting position and of course the allmighty Mongol armies) are the hardest. Danes are not that hard since Stockholm is one of the most lucrative cities and Scandinavia is easy to protect.

**Kobal2fr** · 12-13-2006, 04:05

@Gambie : plus the Danish generals all have a chance to be good traders a birth, boosting trade some more :)

The Russians are pretty hard... They get the Polish (who are superior early on) right in the face very early, have superlarge regions so they must plan things out very, very thoroughly cause they can't react fast, and on top of that they are strapped for cash for a long time. And then, when they're not anymore, the Mongols come

The Egyptians seem also hard on paper (never played them) : cash but crummy units, and getting to face the Turks and the Crusaders, if not both.

**Nebuchadnezzar** · 12-13-2006, 04:33

This question is quite simple when you take everything into consideration.

Jihad and crusader factions can exploit the extra movement and extra income and this makes all of them relatively easy factions to play. Further, the catholic factions get income and useful missions from the pope.

That leaves Byzantium and Russia. Russia gets a very large area to control, very low income at start of campaign and the effect of the Mongols.

From the catholic factions it would be (in order) Hungary, Poland, HRE