I really wish there was some diplomatic subgame- inheriting other kingdoms?

[Dearmad]

I wish it was possible to inherit other lands through your royal family line, and to lose some of your provinces in the same way- and to have a motivation to marry foreign princesses... and princes into your family...

I guess I want more than merely Total War... I'm making a list of things I can mod toward this aim... but so far the list seems rather slender given the variables exposed as we've seen in the text files. Maybe the unPakker will prove my worries to be unfounded.

[Zenicetus]

That would be cool, but maybe for the next game in the series, or a patch after they tighten up the way this works now. The current family tree is totally whacked. I can't make any sense out of it. Right now in my campaign I have a faction leader who is the son of a living father, and his brother (not the oldest brother) is the faction heir. Beats me how this works. I'd like to have the current system be more predictable before we mess with inheriting across diplomatic marriages, etc.

I do think it's a great idea, btw... just bitching about not understanding how the current system works!

[troymclure]

I remember there was a feature kinda like this in Shogun Total War. Been a while but i think if you where allied with someone and all their leaders died you could get some of their provinces?

[Brutal DLX]

I remember there was a feature kinda like this in Shogun Total War. Been a while but i think if you where allied with someone and all their leaders died you could get some of their provinces?

Indeed there was. Same feature existed in MTW too, but it was rare to happen since there it depended on a random chance as well as on marrying princesses from that extinct faction (whom the AI factions were hesitant to give away) as a necessary condition.

[TinCow]

I suspect that you can still inherit a faction's provinces simply because when you marry a princess from another faction, her faction's symbol remains visible on her portrait on the family tree. This would still be extremely rare though, because you would have to (1) have the princess currently married to your King and (2) the allied faction would have to lose all of their family members without losing all of their provinces. Given the speed at which the game gives new family members to factions that are low on them, I think this will be very, very rare even if the feature still exists.

[cambrax]

I'd like to see more of a differentiation between generals and nobles, and actual family members. A smaller family tree with only the direct descendents on it, with the rest of your generals being just that - generals.

Basically, I think I preferred the MTW style nobility (and titles). The sort of inherticance the OP is talking about probably will never happen with the sprawling family trees with bizarre inheritance conditions that you get after a hundred or more turns.

[chunkynut]

I think male offspring are the key to this and I've read on these boards that you can get lands from a faction that has its leaders killed but not all its regions taken. However in that post the person said they had recieved only some of the regions with others going to other factions (presumably factions that also had currently marriage alliances or perhaps in the past).

However I have never seen this.

Also in my first campaign I played with the help on full and the advisor said something about being interested to see if the heir (of my first marriage alliance/union) was male.

I'd suggest a test would be to start a new campaign get a marriage alliance going, cheat and level up some assasins/diplomats and knock off or bribe the faction that you married into's generals and family and destroy the faction (without taking all the regions). If you get their regions it works, if unlikely to happen in the campaign game - which I don't mind, would be a nice challange to try to gain regions this way.