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    Serious topic here, but I couldn't help a good chuckle at the appropriately monickered Doctor quoted in the article. Childish, but funny.


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    Circumcision 'cuts' HIV infection
    Dr Kevin De Cock
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    Results last year from a study in 3,280 heterosexual men in South Africa, which was also stopped early, showed a 60% drop in the incidence of new infections in men who had been circumcised.

    There are several reasons why circumcision may protect against HIV infection.

    Specific cells in the foreskin may be potential targets for HIV infection and also the skin under the foreskin becomes less sensitive and is less likely to bleed reducing risk of infection following circumcision.

    When Aids first began to emerge in Africa, researchers noted that men who were circumcised seemed to be less at risk of infection but it was unclear whether this was due to differences in sexual behaviour.

    A modelling study done by international Aids experts earlier this year showed that male circumcision could avert about six million HIV infections and three million deaths in sub-Saharan Africa.

    A further trial in Uganda to assess the risk of HIV transmission to female partners is due to report in 2008 but the effect among men who have sex with men has not yet been studied.

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    Dr De Cock, director of the HIV/Aids department of the World Health Organization told the BBC the results were a "significant scientific advance" but were not a magic bullet and would never replace existing prevention strategies.

    "We will have to convene a meeting which we hope will happen quite soon to review the data in more detail and have discussions about the implications.

    "This is an intervention that must be embedded with all the other interventions and precautions we have. Men must not consider themselves protected. It's a very important intervention to add to our prevention armamentarium."

    Dr De Cock said that countries in Africa who wanted to use this approach would still have to decide what age groups to target and there would have to be training and hygienic practices in place.


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    What a brilliant name. So devastatingly appropriate.

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    Ha, I was about to post a thread on this, and make the very same joke!
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    This was posted on my city's metal forum some time ago. The discussion turned into a mud-slinging fest regarding Zionists trying to make everyone do things the Jewish way.

    In any case, the only way I could see it making sense is if there are simply fewer blood vessels and pores around a dong that's been circumcised, making it less likely for a potential AIDS infection to travel into the man's bloodstream.

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    You know what also cuts aid risk?

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    Rubbers


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    not sleeping with prostitutes


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    Dont share needles
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    Default Re: Circumcision Cuts AIDS Risk

    Yeah. But honestly when a random hot chick is offering you sex do you generally ask questions or just go for the gold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakizashi
    Yeah. But honestly when a random hot chick is offering you sex do you generally ask questions or just go for the gold?
    Since when in the world do you not were a condom when a random hot chick is offering sex? Honestly gotta think it through on occasions.

    Interesting study, though that would also mean most men in europe are at more risk for AIDS.
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    HIV encodes itself into your DNA. Any fool who took high school anatomy will know this. Taking a knife to Mr Winkie and cutting off his tophat has the same risk of contracting HIV as keeping his headgear on.

    No sex before marriage, stay away from blood that's not yours, and not doing injected drugs is the best way to keep yourself clean. And if you absolutely must have sex before marriage, use a condom for ANY penetration, and get yourself and your partner tested before doing anything oral.

    Fun fact: the HIV virus is present in saliva, so theoretically you can contract HIV just by french kissing. However, the concentration of the virus is so small in the saliva that there has never been a reported contration of HIV (yet) by just kissing.

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    There are places in most cities where one can get clean needles by trading in old needles. Inject safely!

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    Default Re: Circumcision Cuts AIDS Risk

    Quote Originally Posted by article
    Dr Kevin De Cock, director of the HIV/Aids department of the World Health Organization told the BBC the results were a "significant scientific advance" but were not a magic bullet and would never replace existing prevention strategies.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kekvit Irae
    HIV encodes itself into your DNA. Any fool who took high school anatomy will know this. Taking a knife to Mr Winkie and cutting off his tophat has the same risk of contracting HIV as keeping his headgear on.

    No sex before marriage, stay away from blood that's not yours, and not doing injected drugs is the best way to keep yourself clean. And if you absolutely must have sex before marriage, use a condom for ANY penetration, and get yourself and your partner tested before doing anything oral.

    Fun fact: the HIV virus is present in saliva, so theoretically you can contract HIV just by french kissing. However, the concentration of the virus is so small in the saliva that there has never been a reported contration of HIV (yet) by just kissing.
    The immune system can and generally will destroy HIV viruses if they enter in only small amounts, wich is why there's never been a reported case of infection by saliva. The problem is when it enters the body in such large amounts that the immune system can't cope with the rate at wich it mutates.
    Circumcision is thought to reduce the risk of contracting it because:

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    Specific cells in the foreskin may be potential targets for HIV infection and also the skin under the foreskin becomes less sensitive and is less likely to bleed reducing risk of infection following circumcision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekvit Irae
    HIV encodes itself into your DNA. Any fool who took high school anatomy will know this. Taking a knife to Mr Winkie and cutting off his tophat has the same risk of contracting HIV as keeping his headgear on.

    No sex before marriage, stay away from blood that's not yours, and not doing injected drugs is the best way to keep yourself clean. And if you absolutely must have sex before marriage, use a condom for ANY penetration, and get yourself and your partner tested before doing anything oral.

    Fun fact: the HIV virus is present in saliva, so theoretically you can contract HIV just by french kissing. However, the concentration of the virus is so small in the saliva that there has never been a reported contration of HIV (yet) by just kissing.

    I agree! Also, avoid any anal sex (of course) as you have the highest chance of being infected by it!
    Since homosexuals seem to like this particular kind of sex, it is hard for them to break from it, but it is truth, anal sex is the best way to contract HIV.
    As a matter of fact, it is suspected that it originated from Africans pecking monkeys there... (Who on earth would do that to a poor monkey?)
    As gross as that is, it is the truth. I don't know if being circumsized cuts the risk of getting HIV, but I do know that the main way to stop the spread is for people to alter their lifestyles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekvit Irae
    HIV encodes itself into your DNA. Any fool who took high school anatomy will know this. Taking a knife to Mr Winkie and cutting off his tophat has the same risk of contracting HIV as keeping his headgear on.

    No sex before marriage, stay away from blood that's not yours, and not doing injected drugs is the best way to keep yourself clean. And if you absolutely must have sex before marriage, use a condom for ANY penetration, and get yourself and your partner tested before doing anything oral.

    Fun fact: the HIV virus is present in saliva, so theoretically you can contract HIV just by french kissing. However, the concentration of the virus is so small in the saliva that there has never been a reported contration of HIV (yet) by just kissing.
    I'm not sure why you're so quick to dismiss these findings-I'm sure the scientists are aware of the pathological characteristics and mechanism of HIV. If they're making claims like this they probably have some, you know, empirical evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekvit Irae
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