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    A- I see .8 as being a stable, but pretty incomplete build- a little like RTR 6. It's 100% stable but has yet to touch some factions and add some touches (can't wait for 7.0 though )

    B-I'd call it .9 or even a pre-release Beta. It has no crashes, almost all the features stable and working, and only a few units/buildings for one or two factions need redoing. It has music, hundreds of units and buildings, it's MORE finished in my mind than RTR, which has unit cards for every unit, but then they haven't even touched Gaul, Iberia, or Dacia (besides small reskins) so, for me, that's not much better than a faction full of peasant unit cards

    C- I wouldn't call .8 a full release, but a 99% full release- just spend two weeks finishing all the unit/building cards and THEN call it a full release. Lots of mods do that- they polish then add, then polish then add- so just finish up the last units and you could safely call it a first release. On the other hand, it does seem a little late in the game to just radically change our naming system...

    D- I think some people would think EB is just trying to get more people, and some people might get kinda confused. I'd suggest staying with the present naming- but make sure to call 1.0 GOLD Edition

    E- That is something we need to fix- the number one reason people but EB second to other mods is "incomplete" or "buggy". Thanks to EB .8 that is no longer the case and we need to fix that up. I for one, refused to play because of what I thought was an incomplete and buggy bug. EB's reputation is one of incompletion and that ought to be fixed because, in fact, EB is extremely finished
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    A) i dont fully understand this point, sorry , i try to interprete it:

    you know MAME32? well i think to that, when i think to EB 0.74/0.80, somethink that try to reach an "ideal" 1.0 point of perfection, 1.0 should be an "idea", not the reality, you can make steps further, but 1.0 will always be a point in your mind.

    B) as the point A, i think it's an awesome product, but i like that kind of version number.

    take present that MAME only in recent period reached 1.0 version, but they were so fond of the 0.x think, that they didn't call it 1.0, they called it 0.100, and now they are to 0.110 version if i remember well.

    C) as point A and B, it is a full relase, but the 0.x numbers show the progression on increasing the product, and i think it could be nice if it never reach 1.0 version, just as in MAME, when you think it has reached the point, dont call it 1.0 but just 0.100. And further upgrade should be 0.101, 0.110 etc. (anyway it's just an idea)

    D) my perception would not change, but i think to call a mod 7.0/8.0/10.0 it's a bit a smart-ass think, i dont like. (ive seen mods, upgrading from 7.0 to 8.0 like they were creating a totally new product, i think this is just positive for the modder ego... and the only think revolutionary in this upgrade, were only some "cool" photoshopped loading screens with oplites and legionaries...)

    E) well i've not so confience in people intelligence, it depends on their age, cultur etc. (I think a lot of RTW mods fans are just videogame/forum people, etc. i think EB tryed to mark a step further in this direction... it cant be called a game anymore. But the reality is still that, videogame addicted, that can become fans even if you just add a new "cool" unit. (try to put a spartan hoplite in your title screen, call it 8.0 and you will see...)
    As i sayd im not so positive on this point. It's a side of my charachter. But i think EB has already a conscious base, and on the long period will get an even more conscious base.
    Regarding the pubblicity etc., i think it depend on internet, and internet is like TV, a big chest where everythink is mixed-up and everyone can say whatever he want... the matter is to have the skills to filter all this, so i think if you know what you are searching for, you will get for EB.

    My best wishes for your great mod developing, and my congrats! (dont ever stop!)

    salut!

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