diplomacy things in M2TW

[kelfy]

Hi, I just bought my new copy few days ago and I spend like 10 hrs everyday to conquer the world now. Oh man I love this game so much. I'm using England now, never play on other factions yet because I'm still conquering the world.

For the diplomacy things, it is very stupid. I discovered to offer "attack a faction" as gift to your targeted faction. They will get so thankful to me even they reject your gift sometimes. So I send diplomat to almost every countries and they all torward "very good" or "perfact". If I wanna fight someone, I'll just leave that faction and make to relation to the worst and wait them fight me so I can eat them with good a reason or call other factions to help me out and share their lands.

This make me no one hate me while I'm conquering the world. Also I can always secure my pope's seat so the pope is my pope always.

I wonder is that a bug or what?! I dont even spend a penny to keep good relation with all the others. Is there bug fix patch mention and fix this problem?

cheers

[Bellum]

Not a bug but rather an imbalance. I think some of it will get fixed in the patches, and some of it will likely remain forever.

[Tamur]

Welcome to the Org Kelfy!

A lot of the difficulty of diplomacy has to do with your Campaign Difficulty level. If you're playing on easy (which it sounds like you are), then relations with other factions are very easy to maintain, and there aren't the same penalties for such things as going a few turns without contacting a faction, etc.

Most players who are playing on Hard or Very Hard campaign difficulty find the diplomacy quite challenging.

Best of luck to you!

[shawpower]

One thing I've noticed about diplomacy was regarding being given territories as part of a peace settlement.

I am playing England on VH/VH, and I had taken most of GB, along with Rennes (taken from rebels), Caen, Bruge (taken from rebels) and Antwerp (taken from the Danes). Anyway, in one go, the French marched a big stack to attack Rennes, while the Danes sent one round to attack Antwerp.

I won both battles fairly convincingly, and shortly afterwards their diplomats arrived suing for peace. I chanced my arm with the French looking for Angers and cash to accept. Obviously I had demolished a fair chunk of their army as they accepted.

Then the Danes got their comeuppance as they got beaten on the Walls of Antwerp. When the diplomat arrived, I asked for Hamburg and more money.

I've since continued this tactic, and gotten the city east of Hamburg from the Danes and Bourdeaux from the French.

Even more impressive was what I did to Spain. The Pope requested that I set up a blockade with Spain. I agreed to this as my rating with the papacy was a little low. At this stage of the game I was the number two military power in the game. The pope died before the task completed, so I decided to make friends with the Spanish for now, as my priority was Milan who were getting uppity. I sent my diplomat down to offer peace, and took the chance of asking for Pamplona. Once again, they agreed.

The best thing about this is along with the cities/forts you also get about 4 or more units that are often the best available for free. I have gotten dismounted knights, or feudal knights from Hamburg and Pamplona.

Hopefully it is tip you can use going forward. It also doesn't seem to matter who starts the war.

While I can see the logic behind this, given that I'm now only matched in military power by Egypt my neighbours would prefer peace, it is starting to get a bit extreme when I can do it every time. That said, I'm using my top diplomat a lot of the time so maybe that is part of it. But maybe if the odds on acceptance were reduced somewhat?

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Rob