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    Default Blair gets his collar felt!

    Well, not just yet.

    Prime Minister Tony Blair has been interviewed by police investigating cash for honours allegations
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6179911.stm

    As the regulars and old posters will guess...I have a warm glow in my gut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    As the regulars and old posters will guess...I have a warm glow in my gut.


    --> I honestly think nothing will come of it, even if he did do something wrong (which is likely) it wont be his head that gets the chop, likely someone conveniently unpopular withthin the party... at least the police are making an effort or should it be

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    I have a warm glow in my gut.
    You should see a doctor about that.

    Honestly think nothing will come of it, even if he did do something wrong (which is likely) it wont be his head that gets the chop, likely someone conveniently unpopular withthin the party.
    I agree. He has too many friends in high places.

    This week's Have I Got News For You is going to be great, first Boris is going to be the host, and now this has happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Doctor
    This week's Have I Got News For You is going to be great, first Boris is going to be the host, and now this has happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Doctor
    This week's Have I Got News For You is going to be great, first Boris is going to be the host, and now this has happened.

    Please tell me I havent missed that!
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    It was pretty obvious he was going to be questioned, great timing for him it was now, eh?

    He won't get charged, he would have left the job already if he feared even a tiny reprimand, he won't want that on his legacy - charged while in office!

    Anyway the problem I have with this whole thing is that they are concentrating so much on Labour, why isn't the fact that all three of our major parties were at it not put into perspective and reporting more?
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    Labour's "purer than pure" primises in 1997 to sweep away the corrupt Tories? The Tories are thought of as a lot of corrupt cronies. Blair promised otherwise - and is doing the same thing.

    Plus he is PM, and only the second one ever to get investigated for this.

    I feel that he was not cautioned was inexcusable. So he cheerfully says it was all his idea to them all, it's not admissable anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    I have a warm glow in my gut.
    Have you been drinking at the same bar as that chap Litvinenko?

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    Update:

    OPEN warfare has broken out between Downing Street and the police over attempts by allies of Tony Blair to “coerce” detectives in the cash for honours inquiry.

    Angered by senior Labour politicians who criticised the arrest of a key No 10 aide on Friday, police leaders and senior former officers yesterday openly accused the government of playing “Big Brother” politics by improperly interfering in a police investigation.
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...558281,00.html

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    TO those who long to join the ranks of the great and the good, the secretive deliberations in Downing Street each year over the political nominations for the House of Lords are crucial. It is these discussions — conducted by e-mail, telephone calls and meetings — which are now being diligently and forensically unpicked by detectives.

    What was once assumed to be a magisterial process has been laid bare by the police investigation as a tarnished affair in which party coffers play as important a role as personal achievements and integrity.

    The dawn arrest on Friday of Ruth Turner, the government’s director of government relations, is the latest attempt by John Yates, the police officer heading the inquiry, to further unlock these deliberations.
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...558183,00.html

    Editorial

    When, around 6.30am on Friday, four officers from Scotland Yard turned up on Ruth Turner’s doorstep, the “cash for honours” investigation entered a new phase in two important respects. The first was that Ms Turner, one of Tony Blair’s closest aides, was arrested not just under the Honours (Prevention of Abuses) Act 1925 but also “on suspicion of perverting the course of justice”.
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...558010,00.html

    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

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    What has amused me so much about this recent development is the wild squealing about police heavy-handedness for arresting the woman at 6.30 am from Labour ministers et al.

    This from a bunch of thugs that think nothing of criminalising ordinary people without trial and which conduct all their business on the conviction that every citizen is a crook unless proven otherwise. Surely the police are simply following the lead given?

    Methinks they squeal too loudly.
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    Methinks they squeal too loudly.
    Yeah its not like they shot her then made loads of statements to the press about how evil she was .
    Followed up by a very quiet sorry screwed up again .

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    With this coming hard on the heels of Blairs decision to halt the police inquirey of corruption between Ba systems and the Saudi government......Blair sounds about as credible as Jade Goody at a ANC charity concert.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    With this coming hard on the heels of Blairs decision to halt the police inquirey of corruption between Ba systems and the Saudi government......Blair sounds about as credible as Jade Goody at a ANC charity concert.


    Don't worry. The Attorney General has refused to recuse himself from the decision on whether to prosecute Blair, so there's no doubt of a happy ending - well, happy for the politicians, anyway, and aren't they the only ones whose rights count?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost
    What has amused me so much about this recent development is the wild squealing about police heavy-handedness for arresting the woman at 6.30 am from Labour ministers et al.

    This from a bunch of thugs that think nothing of criminalising ordinary people without trial and which conduct all their business on the conviction that every citizen is a crook unless proven otherwise. Surely the police are simply following the lead given?

    Methinks they squeal too loudly.


    The sooner they're out on their ears the better. Their was a time when the "king's men" would have ridden into the commons and sorted them out properly...
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    Lord 'Cashpoint' this time....

    Labour's chief fundraiser Lord Levy has been arrested by police investigating cash-for-honours allegations.

    He was held on suspicion of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice when he returned to police on bail, following his arrest last year.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6314881.stm

    I did wonder if the police were just going through the motions but with a second arrest on the charge of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, it looks like they might be onto something. One can hope.

    Oh, and for those that say the other political parties are just the same. I cannot remember when anyone as close to a serving Prime Minister has been arrested. Not once, but twice, with a chance of several charges being brought.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

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    They are all the same. Labour have just been in power too long and lost all contact with reality, as well has having issues seperating government and their party. But hardly any worse than anyone else.

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    More "criminals' in Parliment.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...1/whamas31.xml

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    A group of British MPs held a private meeting with senior members of the Hamas-controlled Palestinian government in defiance of Britain's ban on contact with the militant Islamic movement.

    Five members of the Britain-Palestine All Party Parliamentary Group met ministers from the Hamas government last week during a visit to Ramallah.

    British ministers and officials are banned from meeting members of the Palestinian cabinet because London categorises Hamas as an international terrorist group.

    One of the group, Richard Burden, the Labour MP for Birmingham Northfield, defended the meeting on the grounds that opening dialogue with Hamas was the best way to make progress in the stalled Israeli-Palestinian peace process.


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    What is the point of rules when it is so patently obvious that they only apply to those in the middle?

    The bottom are untouchable as fines are pointless, and locking em up only increases their cost to society.

    The top can "defend their position" even when that is in contravention to a law (or int he case of celebrities take as much drugs as they want as for some reason they are immune from prosecution).

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    I think we both need another Glorious Revolution.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    I think we both need another Glorious Revolution.
    We'll send one of our princes across the channel. We have some to spare, afterall.


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    Hell yea! Give us the younger one, he seems to have a real set of balls.

    Wait, you're not Dutch are you? Never mind.


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