Two Handed Weaponry frustrations

[BigTex]

Just a clarification question.

Is the 2handed bug for DEK, Billmen etc etc, JUST, against mounted units or both mounted units and foot units?

Do Billmen and DEK engage other foot units without issues?

Just against cavalry, they do fine against footunits.

[AussieGiant]

Thanks Big T!!

[zulukiller]

Just against cavalry, they do fine against footunits.

I actually watched a battle yesterday upclose with DEK (full armour & swordsmith upgrade) V Mongolian heavey archers in meele and the DEK got hammered they wouldnt attack the mongolians just push them with the bottom of there poleaxes. In the end the whole unit of 120 DEK was whipped out and the Mogolian heavey archers only lost 10 to 20 men so i sent over a unit of armoured swordsmen and they chopped up the mongolians easilly with the added pain of having now another unit of Mongolian heavey infantry pelting them with arrows. So id say yes the DEK are useless against more than just cavalry maybe some infantry there no good against aswell.

[Quillan]

That's not quite the same problem as the big bug, but that's the experience I've had with Varangian Guard (from using them) and Tabardariyya (from fighting against them). Normal melee infantry attacks a lot faster than the 2h axes do, and many times I've seen a sword blow stagger an axeman who didn't attack while recovering. The 2h axemen will carve through most militia units, and do really well when they charge an already engaged infantry unit in the flank, but they don't seem to do well in straight 1 on 1 fights.

[zulukiller]

That's not quite the same problem as the big bug, but that's the experience I've had with Varangian Guard (from using them) and Tabardariyya (from fighting against them). Normal melee infantry attacks a lot faster than the 2h axes do, and many times I've seen a sword blow stagger an axeman who didn't attack while recovering. The 2h axemen will carve through most militia units, and do really well when they charge an already engaged infantry unit in the flank, but they don't seem to do well in straight 1 on 1 fights.

Thats a bad problem though isnt it considering the DEK are Englands heavy hitters.