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    I've been trying (hopelessly it would seem) to transform this,



    into a .bif file. However, whenever I try using different approaches all I get is failure.

    With Readbif and a BMP:



    With PURPGRAB and a TGA:



    With PURPGRAB and a LBM:

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    It looks like a palette problem. What paint package are you using? I know that PSP doesn't save LBMs properly. I'm not sure what other program you could use either though. This is why I avoid messing with the graphics in MTW.
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    Default Re: Too GAH! With It!

    Yeah, it would seem so. I'm using UP.

    Using Photoshop:



    Close.
    Last edited by naut; 12-15-2006 at 12:13.
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    Default Re: Too GAH! With It!

    I just downloaded your example, then converted it to .bmp with IrfanView, then created a new bif with readbif and imported the one frame from the bmp.
    Works perfectly for me.
    One thing to watch out for is that you need a 256 colours bmp for it to work properly. You do not need purpgrab for this. The buildings are actually easy to make, it gets more difficult when you start editing the campaign pieces.

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    Default Re: Too GAH! With It!

    IrfanView, of course!



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    Irfanview is just one possibility. Adobe Photoshop is a bit huge for this simple task but works also nicely. I don't remember the exact menu command but you do have to reduce the colours to 256 first and then save it as 8-bit bmp, iirc.

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    Will do.

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    Didn't work. It's 256 at 8-bits. But all I get is that stupid bluish icon.
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    Freedom necessarily involves risk. - Alan Watts

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    I just downloaded your example, then converted it to .bmp with IrfanView, then created a new bif with readbif and imported the one frame from the bmp.
    Please try to reproduce this, using irfanview.
    How many images do you have to convert?
    If it's just the one or a few I'd offer to do it for you but it's so easy that I want you to be able to do it yourself.
    Come on, you can do it.

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    Not working, maybe its my copy of Readbif. I'll download that again.
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    And hold that everything depends upon having the “right” religion.
    But when one really knows, one has no need of religion. - Mahavyuha Sutra

    Freedom necessarily involves risk. - Alan Watts

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    Default Re: Too GAH! With It!

    Do NOT load the original building bif and then import the .bmp.
    That doesn't work, messes up the palette. Create a new bif with the desired dimensions and then import the frame.
    Look for readbif_23c.

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    This is not right:



    EDIT: I have readbif_22 maybe thats why.
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    And hold that everything depends upon having the “right” religion.
    But when one really knows, one has no need of religion. - Mahavyuha Sutra

    Freedom necessarily involves risk. - Alan Watts

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    Default Re: Too GAH! With It!

    I was actually using v21. It works now with v22.

    Thanks a lot R'as al Ghul.
    Last edited by naut; 12-15-2006 at 13:22.
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    And hold that everything depends upon having the “right” religion.
    But when one really knows, one has no need of religion. - Mahavyuha Sutra

    Freedom necessarily involves risk. - Alan Watts

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    Singleplayer: Download beta_8
    Multiplayer: Download beta_5.All.in.1
    I'll build a mountain of corpses - Ogami Itto, Lone Wolf & Cub
    Sometimes standing up for your friends means killing a whole lot of people - Sin City, by Frank Miller

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    Your right it is easy, once you get the hang of it.

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    Some piously affirm: "The truth is such and such. I know! I see!"
    And hold that everything depends upon having the “right” religion.
    But when one really knows, one has no need of religion. - Mahavyuha Sutra

    Freedom necessarily involves risk. - Alan Watts

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    I'm doing ok with my buildings, but I have some small black specks. It's as though the transparency isn't correct in places. I've checked them over with readbif 23c once the bif is made but the transparancy seems to be correct in those areas where the black specks appear. I've resolved it on one icon by colouring the specks with a foreground colour. I'm using PSP v5.0 to edit the files and saving them as .png then saving them as bmps using irfanview. If I save as .bmp in PSP the pallettes get mucked up. This seems a bit long winded. I don't have any other paint program so i'm not sure what else to do.
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    "The law is like a spider’s web. The small are caught, and the great tear it up.” - Anacharsis

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    Yeah, I get those damned specks to. I resolved it with PSP by getting the Icon on one layer and a screen shot on the other. Change th opacity and do exactly what you've done, put a foreground colour over the black specks. It's probably something to do with Readbif when it converts files.

    I actually just use MSPaint, as it is simple and the process being simple all it needs is MSPaint. I also have UP (its in the Shareware and Freeware Thread), because it can save files as TGAs and LBMs.

    BTW, where did you get 23c from I couldn't find it.
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    Some piously affirm: "The truth is such and such. I know! I see!"
    And hold that everything depends upon having the “right” religion.
    But when one really knows, one has no need of religion. - Mahavyuha Sutra

    Freedom necessarily involves risk. - Alan Watts

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    http://www.mizus.com/files/files/Too...wser_final.zip

    I find that with readbif 23c the bif file gets saved as the name i enter instead of being saved over the bmp file.
    “The majestic equality of the laws prohibits the rich and the poor alike from sleeping under bridges, begging in the streets and stealing bread.” - Anatole France

    "The law is like a spider’s web. The small are caught, and the great tear it up.” - Anacharsis

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    Cheers.
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    Some piously affirm: "The truth is such and such. I know! I see!"
    And hold that everything depends upon having the “right” religion.
    But when one really knows, one has no need of religion. - Mahavyuha Sutra

    Freedom necessarily involves risk. - Alan Watts

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