The patch is here

**TB666** · 12-15-2006, 18:52

Originally Posted by Fizz

It's weird that the TotalWarBlog.com entry specifically mentions the improved axemen and billmen. Yet it's not mentioned in the bug fixes nor, based on your experience, any more effective.

Hmmmph.

That because that is the planned fixes for the 2nd patch.

**Dearmad** · 12-15-2006, 19:02

And the next patch'll be due in... February. So look for it March or April.

Oy vey...

**mor dan** · 12-15-2006, 19:23

the rendering is slow on the larger cities as well, so "auto-resolve" is still the only real way to fight the top 3 city sieges (city, min city, large city) or the top castles (castle, fortress, citadel).

interesting not, when you turn the camera away from the city and face out into just the hills, the lag all goes away. so, if you don't mind fighting blind.... ; )

**IsItStillThere** · 12-15-2006, 19:43

And the next patch'll be due in... February. So look for it March or April.

Oy vey...

Now, now...be fair. This is pretty quick for them to release the first patch, in my opinion. The fact that they already acknowledge the need for a second and are planning to implement one is fantastic. Or at least a lot better than some companies do.

**Flavius Gonzo** · 12-15-2006, 19:54

Can someone, anyone confirm that they were able to d/l the new patch, install it, and successfully re-load an existing campaign game?

I'd like to rock these fixes, but not at the risk of having to start my campaign over.

**GFX707** · 12-15-2006, 21:08

Originally Posted by mor dan

interesting not, when you turn the camera away from the city and face out into just the hills, the lag all goes away. so, if you don't mind fighting blind.... ; )

You can also experiment with angling the camera inside the city....in certain directions the graphics slowdown goes away. Something inside the city apparently causes the slowdown, but I can't work out what.

**Cesare diBorja** · 12-15-2006, 21:37

Hate to say this, but this patch is being murdered over at the Trivium/TWC.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=73576

Already many have gone several dozen turns into the game. Lots of things have been discovered. Some of you have already seen or are now figuring it out. Oh, well. I have had some great battles. It seems sieges are not at all changes, armies just stand there. I would like to see my army run by the AI conduct a siege like the AI puts one over on me.
Had a battle against the French as the Brits. It lasted nearly 40 minutes. Many great things, both armies reacted to each other. Countered each other's moves. I usually let the AI run myarmies and I take over one unit, usually the mercs. I like using the merc-Xbowmen as commandos since they have swords, or even merc Pavise-Xbowmen. These were on saved games.

Siege bug seems to be the same whether new or old game. Still testing.

**Zenicetus** · 12-15-2006, 21:55

Originally Posted by Cesare diBorja

Hate to say this, but this patch is being murdered over at the Trivium/TWC.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=73576

Already many have gone several dozen turns into the game. Lots of things have been discovered. Some of you have already seen or are now figuring it out. Oh, well. I have had some great battles. It seems sieges are not at all changes, armies just stand there.

Was the passive siege AI on a new campaign after the patch, or a saved campaign game?

I know I've seen posts here indicating the patch works on saved campaigns, but I'm wondering if all the critical fixes are in place. Testing the new patch should probably be done on custom battles or new campaign, just to be sure.

**Husar** · 12-15-2006, 22:14

Originally Posted by GFX707

You can also experiment with angling the camera inside the city....in certain directions the graphics slowdown goes away. Something inside the city apparently causes the slowdown, but I can't work out what.

Shader Model 2....

**big_boss120** · 12-15-2006, 22:52

I just fought several battles where i would have expected the passive AI bug to kick in. In one, my force was positioned on a hill, my missile troops were deployed at the front, with spearmen and heavy infantry behind, some horsies on the flanks. the enemy advanced towards me, their missile troops leading. i was able to cause heavy casualties before they got into range. we traded shots for a few volleys, but it was obvious that i had the upper hand (casualties of 10-1 in my favour) at which point the bulk of the enemy infantry advanced up the hill and engaged my main line. my missile troops still managed to play a part, whittling down his cavalry reserve somewhat, but the AI just pushed its troops forward.

I observed the same in the next battle. similar situation, similar reaction from the AI, push its missile troops forward, try to cause damage with them, when that didn't work the main line advanced and engaged my up close

Sounds good enough to me....if that doesnt work we can always go back to mod the battle_ai behavior.

Hate to say this, but this patch is being murdered over at the Trivium/TWC.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=73576

Already many have gone several dozen turns into the game. Lots of things have been discovered. Some of you have already seen or are now figuring it out. Oh, well. I have had some great battles. It seems sieges are not at all changes, armies just stand there. I would like to see my army run by the AI conduct a siege like the AI puts one over on me.

To be honest the ppl @ TWC are pretty much gunning for the patch & fans (NOT fanboys) when MTW2 is released. It's not much surprise to see so much hate there, but despite that, some ppl will probably do a good job and report the additional issues post-patch without any critic demeaners + @ss responses, but it's becoming harder to find that kind of ppl in TWC...

**Satyr** · 12-15-2006, 23:26

Past disappointments are hard to overcome. Now when everyone knows that it is at least another 2 months before we get another patch who is going to still be playing M2TW if this patch isn't any good?