Best Scenario / Faction for Newbie?

[Bonfire]

(guide for MORI Clan)
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simple there buddisht monks are cheaper and there better VS yari samurai/yari calavry
and ashagru. they maybe weak to archers but the computer never makes that many.

as for the reason why locaiton wise.

that area around there has iron deposite for master armorys for oyur future badass monks and tenasi.

as for shinano..

make a group of yari samuari and kenasi.. 1 or 2 kenasi and have them hide in the numbers of yari samuari. why you ask? simple consider the yari samuari a huge sheild in which to block the arrows from your tenasi.

if you started out as mori and you manage to get to shinano by that time you should be able to build kenasi and afford there support cost. so its matter of lots of yari samuari to hide the kenasi amogst the yari samuari as you run up the hill (rember there an elite unit meanign they would rather die then run)..

just remeber after the kenasi make contact you've just won the map.. rally the routing guys and await the deaths of the kenasi on the top of the hill.
if they do die.(by this time if your ammo setting is set to realism not unlimited) the numbers and morale would have shift so much your yari samuari just have to run up . take oyur taiso too.. cause there out of arrows.

congrats minnano is yours.

as for early strategy its simple monks... show your love for budism and way of the samuari the way of the warrior and jsut go straight out monks and archers. after oyu build sword dojo to the point ot make kenasi (perferably over an iron deposit so you have have a golden palace,master swordsmith,and master armory there you set jsut make kenasi here 1 or 2 at a time.. too expesive other wise. other provinces golden palace-and buddist temple complex for 2 morale. depend on provinces.

put the monks under the command of your heir or taiso.

go forth and conquer japan and send christianty back to the shores of europe where it should have stayed and died.

[Psiloi]

Mori was too my favourite clan, but have a lot of problems for a newbie:

1. Like all the southerness (or westerness) clans of STW, Mori will advance conquering the SW part and you can feel powerful, but is a false position, the North-Eastern clans like Hojo and Uesugi grow to a fantastic level and you always will be in vastly inferior numbers using all the richness of your half Japan.
2. Have a bad strategical position, not so bad like Oda but worst than most of the clans, in the middle of two emergents powers.
3. The agriculture of Chugoku, and in genereal the southwestern half, isn't specially profitable.
4. The warrior monks, wich are the native and elite troops of the Mori, are expensive and difficult of to develop, contrary to for example the No-Dachi of Shimazu.


Of course have a lot of advantages but i will say only following to Bonfire that there is a crucial advantage on the iron mines of Chugoku. Develop the commerce trade wich give a sure economical base (ports first and then agriculture, and the dutch better than portuguese of course) and a few but highly quality troops.

All in all as i say before, Mori is not for newbies, better is Shimazu and Hojo-Uesugi. Oda, Takeda and Imagawa are very very hard.



I know that anybody is reading this forum in these times, and that this is phantom thread, but i wanted remember all times.

[thip]

Maybe a ghost thread but still interesting for newbie to get a few ideas.

[mrdun]

For my first STW campaign I chose.. the red ones. I cannot get that much into it as I am used to RTW's graphics. But it has kept my interest for a lot longer than I thought it would.

[Drisos]

Mori? awww, they don't own a lot of money at first, (compared to Hojo, Uesugi)

thip, any specific questions, things that are going wrong?
If you use search, or just look into old threads, you'll easily find lots of basic information of beginners. If you have specific questions, ask here. ;)

hmm, I'm going to reply to the part of this thread about Shinano, (a bit late, but since the thread got bumped ... :P ..) I always loved Uesugi for that region, because it would garantee many enemies attacking it. I usually didn't have trouble keeping it, and killed hundreds, sometimes over thousand when they were foolish enough to try again. The ongoing attacks of Takeda, Imagawa and sometimes Oda made sure I could keep their armies limited by simply defending Shinano once a year or so, such an easy way to kill off their ability to grow stronger.

I preferably used loads of archers. usually around 10. and a few heavy units (ys, naginata) and a few cavalry. of course, archers run out of arrows, but coming down from such a mountain they beat anything, anyway.

Edit:

@thip:

If you want help on how to play campaigns: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=56338
It's full of links to campaign stories. Reading some will help a lot I think! People have written detailed stories about their campaigns, so..

If you want help on battles.. hmm.. just describe how you're acting and how the enemy is acting and how and why you are losing (or winning!).
a few tips.. make lots of samurai archers and yari samurai. try to keep balance between them. (army of 2 sa, 2 ys, etc) when defending, use more archers then normal, when attacking, use more yari's. use your army as one, don't let a single unit attack, let all attack together. if you can, shoot the enemy as long as you can before engaging. (unless the enemy has more firepower!) alway try to be on high ground. and, always keep your general alive! if he dies, your men will have no morale.

That's a few veeery basic tips for a beginner playing the beginning of a campaign.

Enjoy, and feel free to ask!

[mps247]

Stay away from any clans that have provinces separated from each other, like Takeda. I remember the first time I played STW, and chose Takeda (I had recently watched the film Kagemusha) - I was defeated easily. Next game, I chose Hojo (and also set the difficulty level to easy), and took over the map.

So, I say Hojo is the best clan to start with. Rich provinces, and the reduced prices of castles make development far easier. Although you start off in (arguably) the hardest part of the map, surrounded by two clans (including the very aggressive Takeda clan who want your rich lands), you can easily defend your provinces and develop your army at the same time.

I think that the Shimazu clan are harder for a beginner. You should only play as Imagawa after you have beaten the game a couple of times - I find them the most enjoyable, but the hardest.

[Royce]

You should be telling the truth to newbees. They will never win this campaign. It sucks...the only good thing about Shogun 2 is castles can be defended outside of that it's a no win situation....

[gollum]

Hello Royce,
it seems your comments are for Shogun 2. If that is the case you better post them in the Tea House, the forum for S2:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forum...?312-Tea-House

In case you refer to STW, i have played many many camps as well as most other people and the game is absolutely winnable.

Although i haven't bought S2 yet the same appears to be true as many people already posted their screenshots of them winning the camp.