I made the pope my vassal ;-)

[Bijo]

[Shahed]

Cool. Report back and let us know how long the vassalage lasts.

[Anubis King]

Excuse my ignorance but what does a vassal do?

[Quillan]

I don't know if it's exactly the same as a protectorate in RTW. In Rome, a protectorate granted alliance and military access to both factions, was supposedly unbreakable by the client faction, and if the client had over 15,000 in the treasury then the excess went to the patron faction as tribute, every turn.

[Anubis King]

interesting

[Bijo]

Vassal basically means slave.


vas·sal (vās'əl) Pronunciation Key
n.

1. A person who held land from a feudal lord and received protection in return for homage and allegiance.
2. A bondman; a slave.
3. A subordinate or dependent.

[Musashi]

Slave isn't entirely accurate. While it's true that serfs are vassals of their lord, Dukes are vassals of their King as well, and they're hardly slaves.

[Kraxis]

Cool. Report back and let us know how long the vassalage lasts.

I would like to know as well.

Also, did that end the excomm?

[Satyr]

When I played as the Scots I had a great gig going with the French for a while. We were constantly at war and after a couple of years of fighting they would offer to let me be their vassal. Well, I always accepted and demanded a large lump sum payment. A few years later they would attack again and I would get another payment. They financed my development and military so that I could kick their butts. Mighty neighborly of them.

[Snoil The Mighty]

Thanks for the tale! After the patch, it appears in Spanish campaign I have created a monster of the Papcy, as they have all of Italy and are working on The former Milan/HRE settlements which were taken by Sicily. The Pope's my longtime ally but I was going at a leisurely pace to get the New World event and here's my longtime pal-of-pals, right in my way now! Mind, given his strength, it'll be tough to whittle him down far enough but that's the goal now

[Belisarius Invictus]

I'm currently at war with the Papal States, and have taken Rome, destroyed the Pope's army, and killed the Pope -- how do I get vassalage as an option in the diplomacy screen? I can pick Ceasefire, then Reconciliation becomes available, but no Vassalage.

[Whacker]

I would like to know as well.

Also, did that end the excomm?

Methinks when he killed the dumb sod, that ended the excomm. Could be wrong through.

[lars573]

Cool. Report back and let us know how long the vassalage lasts.

I'm going on 20+ turns with Byzantines as my Turkish vassals. After 12 turns I bought half their lands too. They had 5 provinces left I took 3.

[supadodo]

WHen playing as HRE, I made allies with the Pope simply by giving him a piece of nonstrategic land and a few thousand florins. Then he went crazy and started excommunicating any faction that dared lay a finger on me. Every turn or so I give 100 florins to keep relations at perfect and unlike all the other factions he never broke the alliance. Interestingly he was allies with all my enemies before