Thanks again.

I'm pretty familiar with height maps and such (having been an avid 3d raytracer since POV days), and so manipulating the TGA was no big deal.

I replaced the ones in the folder you said... deleted the the file oyu mentioned... and the cliffs and STEEP inclines in places I FLATTENED (made very dark (13,13,13)) are HUGE still- exactly the same... so i REALLY screwed around with the terrain type maps, the roughness maps, everything... they did nothing.

Are they then supposed to be moved from the BASE folder to the imperial_campaign folder or somewhere else?

Sorry to need the handholding here... but I don't get this.