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    Violation of Separation of Church and State here. Fire the teacher.
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    Intelligent design is not a scientific theory and treating it as such is a travesty.

    And if evolution doesn't work without 'Intelligent guidance' explain to me the success of genetic algorithms. Does God intervene there too ? We know the FSM likes to tamper with scientific results, but what about Jah ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc_bean
    Intelligent design is not a scientific theory and treating it as such is a travesty.
    Evolution is not a scientific theory - it fails to meet the rules of the scientific method which are necessary to become a legitimate scientific theory.

    Yet most people want the non-scientific theory of evolution to be taught simply because it happens to agree with their personal anti-God mindset.

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    Navaros is right in one regard - it is the teacher's job to indoctrinate the kids. The only real difference here is that he's introducing ideas that aren't part of the designated group of notions which every good and honest citizen "should" accept as truth. I don't care if he was talking about Yeshua or time travel through autoerotic nipple-twisting; the man wasn't doing his job (read: sticking to official curriculum) and that's the only standard to which his behaviour can truly be measured. He's being paid to do it, after all.

    Unless there are explicit guidelines regarding his punishment for such a thing, though, all reprimands are equally appropriate.

    One more thing, though:

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    I think he stepped out of line by using up class time to discuss ideals that should be reserved for pre-class or post-class time.
    Wasting the students time by preaching about Jesus and Christianity not once but multiple times, and accusing people of going to hell. Thats what rubs me wrong. That he wastes tax dollars discussing something that he is not being paid to do.

    I don't really have a problem with teaching I.D. along with Evolution, but thats for Science not 11th Grade History!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal Murat
    I don't really have a problem with teaching I.D. along with Evolution, but thats for Science not 11th Grade History!
    ID isn't science. If the "theory" is that some higher power made stuff and could make anything there's nothing to it but faith. A real theory should not only have an idea about what happens but what isn't LIKELY to happen.
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