Milanese Banner\Wagon

[Quickening]

Remember the rumoured supply wagons and how some people claimed to have seen them in the game? I always wondered if they were confusing it with the banner that I often see the armies of Milan with. It is either a banner or a wagon depending on where you look at the mouse tooltip

Anyway, apparently it increases morale for all nearby troops. I have never played as Milan and am wondering if you can build them. Are they the only nation to get them?

As the enemy army fled I ordered all my archers to fire their burning arrows at it to see if I could destroy it. It took one hell of a lot of flaming arrows but didn't burn. Wonder if they can be burnt.

Anyway I took a pretty screenshot of the one I saw earlier just for those who may not have seen one yet.

[Quillan]

That's a Caraccio Standard. Venice also gets them.

[Rpkmann]

they can be built...also venice gets a standard as well, but i'm not sure if any others do.

[Shahed]

I've seen those as well. Can they be destroyed ? or not ?

Funny thing is the guys who defend that are supposed to have swords (IIRC) but they only use their spears.

[Sir_Hawkwood]

Ahhhh!, I want one!
Guess the English dont get the chance though...

I too presume that it raises moral for nearby troops, though I cant imagine how lugging that thing around the Alps in winter makes you a happier soldier...

My second guess is that its culverin bait... Well.. I'm going to shoot it, regardless of what else is in range...

Cheers
SJH

[seneschal.the]

Going on crusades gives you the chance of a "great cross", which is the same thing stat wise.

Before the patch, you could not move these things in or out of cities on the battlemap!

[Sir_Hawkwood]

[QUOTE=seneschal.the]Going on crusades gives you the chance of a "great cross", which is the same thing stat wise.


Great!, its Crusade time!!!

I bet thats how these things started in real life, eh?...

Cheers
SJH

[Tuidjy]

Not only can you build them, but you sometimes get them as reward for
completing the nobles' missions. As a very early infantry, the crew is not too
shabby, but the wagon slows you down too much, same as any siege engine.

[Hosakawa Tito]

I brought one with me on my Milan Campaign crusade, and the buggers deserted, while at sea no less. Hope the damn thing sunk.

[sapi]

Not only can you build them, but you sometimes get them as reward for
completing the nobles' missions. As a very early infantry, the crew is not too
shabby, but the wagon slows you down too much, same as any siege engine.

Just drop the standard then :P

[Rothe]

Has anyone tried these things in sieges/bridge battles?

I think you can plug wall breaches with them and in some cases a few of them might block a bridge too. Assuming that the enemy troops cannot move them...

[Kobal2fr]

Going on crusades gives you the chance of a "great cross", which is the same thing stat wise.

Hehe, yeah, I love them . I know they're somewhat historical, but they just have the right amount of nonsense in them to make me laugh.

Baldwin_the_Pilgrim : "My lord, my lord, you HAVE to see my latest invention !"
Commander : "*sigh*. Baldwin, what is this thing ?"
Baldwin_the_Pïlgrim : "It's a big towed cross, m'lud !"
C : "Yes, yes I can see that, obviously. May I perchance inquire as to the point of asking my men to push that thing into battle ? Does it churn the heathens into mincemeat with vicious hidden barbs, or cast wicked greek fire upon them to give them a taste of the hellish flames they deserve maybe ?"
B : "Err...no."
C : "Send huge boulders flying into their ranks ?"
B : "Nu-uh. But...but m'lud, it's a CROSS ! And it's BIG !"
C : "Yes, well, thank you Baldwin, but my knights already have big crosses on their shields, tabards, horses, swords and helmets. I don't think a towering wooden one will be of any more help."
B : "Can't have too many crosses, m'lud."
C : "... yes, yes I suppose you're right"
B : "And of course, our lord savior is in heaven, you know. He'll have less trouble seeing a BIG TOWED CROSS from up there."
C : "Notre-Dame, you're right ! OK LADS, YOU HEARD HIM ! PUSH THAT THING !"

[sapi]

:P So many absurdities ;)

[John Johnston]

You think that's silly?

Early bishop: "Oh m'lud, we've got this new idea for a temple, right?"
Early lord: "Uh-huh, a new temple to celebrate Jesus Christ Our Lord, right?"
Bishop: "Yeah... and y'know what the gimmick will be?"
Lord: "I can scarce begin to imagine."
Bishop: "The whole building will be..."
Lord: "Yes?"
Bishop: "...will be..."
Lord: "Yes?!"
Bishop: "...will be..."
Lord: "Oh for God's sake, this isn't friggin' Pop Idol, get on with it!"
Bishop: "...cross shaped!"
Lord: "Oh. My. God."
Bishop: "Precisely, lord!"

[seneschal.the]

When facing mongols and their super-dread generals, Great crosses / Standards could be very useful. They can also block streets in cities very well, so you can stab them in the back :)

[PureFodder]

Can flaming arrows set them on fire?