Pope-o-meter interpretation

**Quickening** · 12-19-2006, 00:06

If you go into the "Pope-o-Meter" rating bit and hold your mouse cursor over the HRE's rating, the mouse tooltip will tell you whether they are excommunicated or not.
EDIT: Nevermind.

In my experience people with the rating that those HRE have are not excommunicated. The Pope just hates them.

EDIT2: Sorry Im being rubbish today. My very own faction has had the "Not enough fires in hell..." thing to and was not excommunicated at the time. I believe that if a faction is excommunicated, it will specifically say so.

**seneschal.the** · 12-19-2006, 00:13

I've seen a faction with 2 crosses that was "taken back into the fold" by the Pope. Quite funny, because in the before turn I had taken two cities and wiped out like 1/2 of the troops. It is likely related to how much beating it takes, because I have seen factions with 5-6 crosses that did not get reconciled until a few turns later when the pope died; and they were very aggressive (Milan slaughtering the French)

Does your Papal approval rating influence how much hit the other nations take if they commence hostile attacks upon you? Or is it just for calling crusades and getting them approved more easily?

**Kraxis** · 12-19-2006, 00:21

The crosses does not indicate anything but how the relations are with the Pope.

At one time four factions were excommed (at various times of course) and three of them had plenty crosses. The Danes had at least 6. So I killed them fast, lest they become reconciled and become the new Pope's Pet.

Incidentally you don't even have to lose all your crosses to become excommed, however a lot of crosses does tend to make it more likely that the Pope will just be mad with you.

**Hosakawa Tito** · 12-19-2006, 00:23

I tried taking a print screen shot, but if it did work I can't find it. Where in the MTW2 program files are print screens stored? There not in my pictures file either.

**Quickening** · 12-19-2006, 00:26

Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito

I tried taking a print screen shot, but if it did work I can't find it. Where in the MTW2 program files are print screens stored? There not in my pictures file either.

They are in the "tgas" folder in your Medieval 2 directory. I open them with infranview and save them as jpegs.

**Hosakawa Tito** · 12-19-2006, 00:49

Thanks Quickening. Took this old dog a while to learn snag-it, but I got it.

So according to Kraxis, the HRE is not excommunicated.

**Kraxis** · 12-19-2006, 00:58

They are not... the line would say so quite specifically.

However, what you could do, if you find that you have enough money, is to provoke a war. March troops onto their lands ect. In time they would get pissed and attack you, and with that rating with teh Pope they would get excommed before you could say 'excommunication'! Or they might withdraw, letting you take their settlements (but beware of the Pope, he might warn you too).