Thinking of uninstalling the patch!

**Satyr** · 12-19-2006, 19:32

I am tired of the new bugs introduced into the game with the patch and I think I am going to uninstall it/reinstall the game. There are a few items that just seem too broken to keep it. I have suiciding generals back. I have terrible pathing in cities for cav and cav archers in particular. I have cav that seems even worse at charging (at least I knew how to handle the old behavior) and also seems just as bad at chasing and killing routers. I have cav, and to some degree infantry, that just can not maintain unit cohesion and doing the 'loose/tight' microing doesn't seem to work as well anymore either. I generally don't play with archer heavy armies so I hadn't had too much trouble with the passive ai bug so I am probably going back to the original game. Anyone else thinking of doing the same?

After the RTW fiasco I sure am disappointed. Hopefully they can actually get something right in the next patch otherwise I am done with new CA games.

**HaroldVonBraver** · 12-19-2006, 19:52

I agree with the cavalry. They should just have left it the way it was. I was actually getting used to it. Now cavalry just charges all over the place with their lances. It just doesn't look right anymore. Other than that I like the more agressive AI.

**Whacker** · 12-19-2006, 20:19

The foolish chasing-down-routers pathing is still there, but from a cohesion standpoint I think that it's markedly improved for all units. It's still not as good as it was in RTW (which I actually think has the best cohesion of the games so far) but it's definitely a step up. Charging still seems pretty wonky but at least I can get most of my cav to line up and hit the enemy at the same time.

**Tora** · 12-19-2006, 20:41

The pursuit of routers, where one or two advance individuals make contact with a fleeing enemy, only for their whole unit to halt the chase and reform, is frustrating to say the least.

Watching 10000 florins worth of King evade capture time and again by several hundred seemingly lobotomized pursuers is enough to drive me up the

**Satyr** · 12-19-2006, 23:49

The 2 items that are pushing me in this direction are the inability of cav archers to get out of their own way, let alone the spears coming after them, in cities. If left untended they get caught and slaughtered every time. And having the general suicide into my spears battle after battle is putting a serious dent in the challenge. I mean he dies, the whole army routs, then my stupid cav can't even chase down and capture/kill the runners, I thought this got fixed in the last game! Oh well, I do enjoy that the AI is pushier and that they are invading via the sea, but I am not sure the cure isn't worse then the disease.

**Dan.o6** · 12-20-2006, 00:18

Chasing down routing units need be seriously fixed...

**Von Nanega** · 12-21-2006, 13:39

Originally Posted by Tora

The pursuit of routers, where one or two advance individuals make contact with a fleeing enemy, only for their whole unit to halt the chase and reform, is frustrating to say the least.

Watching 10000 florins worth of King evade capture time and again by several hundred seemingly lobotomized pursuers is enough to drive me up the

I wonder if putting a unit chasing routers under AI assistance would help. Will test and find out.

**Quillan** · 12-22-2006, 05:20

I just played tonight for the first time since installing the patch, and I have to agree. The mounted units chasing routers is even worse than it was prior to the patch. In 3 different battles I sent some mounted sergeants after routers only to have this disjointed gaggle of troops scattering all over the battlefield. It didn't look like cavalry pursuing a target to me. In fact, what it looked like makes me think I need to mod in some new battle music. Can anyone tell me where to download the music they played over the ending credits of The Benny Hill Show?