Yes.

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For god sake's, whats WRONG with you. I've tossed out old versions of Cd's or made DVD backups and archived them (KOTOR, Unreal, etc.)

But I have every CD and DVD of every Civ game in my main game binder all crisp and clean.

Civilization is the peak of a what strategy games can be. Anything else is just striving to be Civ.

The sheer work, love, intensity, thought, complexity and diversity of Civ makes it a candidate for best strategy game ever, and possibly one of the best game series ever (no joke).

If I hadn't discovered Shaba Wangy's patch/mod today, I would have totally quit off Total War till I felt like aggrevating myself. The problems are so numerous it's absurd.

But, yes, we need Civilization-Like Diplomacy or borders!

Civilization had VERY VERY VERY similary invasion/border protection issues in it's first two iterations. The last two (3 and 4) have had defined, and diplomatically protected borders.

The only problem with Civ is that there's no indepth battles. If you combined Civ's management with TW's battling, you'd have the ultimate game.

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