Campaign map random CTDs??

**wlesmana** · 12-20-2006, 06:38

I can't seem to pintpoint the bugs that would cause these:
- CTD during the turn of the AI, it's always in the middle of it doing something and it's usually certain factions or more likely to happen to certain factions, but it's quite random as in you can't tell which turn it'll happen
- CTD when your turn is about to start, also quite random as in you don't know which turn it'll happen but I suspect it has something to do the events? There's no building being finished, so maybe it's traits/ancillaries, or marriages/births?

Anyone had similar problems?

**Dol Guldur** · 12-20-2006, 14:38

Campaign CTDs can be due to a number of reasons unfortunately. The most likely culprits are tech trees and settlements with wrongly coded faction/cultures. I would suggest a review of the "modders' guide to CTD" (sticky) thread which has some of these listed. You need to be real careful with settlements and the EDB as they do not like to give error reports too often ;)

**Makanyane** · 12-20-2006, 14:51

Could be traits /ancillaries, have you tried Tamur's validator?
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=68697
Another possible could be names if you've got one in descr_names that doesn't have correct entry in text/names.txt, if its not in strat I don't think that will crash until it's selected for a new character (a new name is generated for a captain each time a non-general unit leaves a city - so that might fit). Although for both of those areas I'm not completely sure if it CTD's during turn or on viewing character.

For the events like births/marriages it would probably CTD as your turn is due to start if you've mangled the part of the event_strings in { }.

Without knowing what you've changed between it being stable and not its a bit hard to guess and I'm not sure if there are many ways of finding out short of isolating problem by reverting each area (traits / names / events texts etc) in turn to vanilla.

Umm, sorry, hope someone else has some better ideas....
EDIT: Luckily someone had better idea whilst I was writing that.....must learn to type faster

**Caius** · 12-20-2006, 22:30

Originally Posted by wlesmana

- CTD when your turn is about to start, also quite random as in you don't know which turn it'll happen but I suspect it has something to do the events? There's no building being finished, so maybe it's traits/ancillaries, or marriages/births?

Anyone had similar problems?

Well, this can be the save CTD.When disabled the autosave thing, it doesnt give you a CTD, but you try to save and...

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

But the save isnt damaged.Weird.