Most memorable moment in m2tw

[Scotsmanforlife]

I'm having a lot of fun playing this game and would just like to hear from
others the best moments they've had playing. Even though i lost the most fun i've had was playing the Scots so far. I tried going the peaceful route with the english but it backfired on me.

[pevergreen]

I havent had that many compared to RTW but my final defences are so much fun. Its like Braveheart or LOTR. 2 bodyguard and general defending large city (not starting force, that was all thats left) vs over 600. The General walks around the entire city, waving it goodbye, arrows thumping around him. He makes his way to the middle, and charges headlong into over 400 spears and 100 archers. *sniff*

[KARTLOS]

i recently had an epic battle outside of jerusalem. I fought 3 sizable egyptian armies with one crusade stack of my own, my kings crusade army ( which I let the ai control) + a hungarian crusading stack.

my army was mainly made up of crusader nights and 4 mercenary horse archers (turkopoles?) and I moved them swiftly around the map, I destroyed the first egyptian force on my own, the largest egyptian force engaged the hungarian army and I charged them in the back and then finally all three allied armies ganged up on the final egyptian force and uterly destroyed it. Lots of glorious charges by knights! after that jerusalem was free for the taking.

This was the first occasion where crusading has actually been a challenge. i took my time getting there as i got embroiled fighting the backstabbing byzantines and turks on my way to target. i noticed poish, milanese and hungarian forces go past me and i thought i had messed up and missed out on the crusade target. it turned out the egyptians had several large stacks right next to jerusalem and they saw off a couple of crusading forces. i was playing a edited version of a royal arms mod which has extra provinces on the standard sized map + shaba wangy diplomacy mod + some unit modifications of my own - and i think there must have been something in there that made the egyptains richer and able to defend themelves properly. They still have damascus and gaza, which are defended by full stacks which never usually happens - deffinately more of a challenge + more fun.

in the same camapign i took the turkish city of aleppo on my way to jerusalem and left it guarded by 3 crusader seargents, one dismounted crusader knight and one 12men unit of high experience mailed knights. I successfully repelled a 3/4 stack turkish army which included two catupualts. that was deffinately my most fun seige defence as the odds werer so bad. only the knights and 50 seargents survived.

[chunkynut]

The last stands are certainly the best on the whole but I've had more enjoyable field battles as well.

The mongols give a great challange and I decided that of the three stacks near my city I would attack the middle one (all three were close enough on the map to re-enforce the each other) .... bad move. I had an uphill run to the 'middle' army and there was an army behind to the left and behind to the right. My first thoughts were 'f**k', my second thoughts were get up the hill take out the 'middle' army and turn and face off the others ... massive attrition on all sides their archers took a major slice out of me and my knights gouged at them but in the end their numbers won through. Very difficult but enjoyable.

Most of the best city seiges I've played have been against the mongols too.

[Kraxis]

Most memorable?

Game crashing in battles, just when I have finished my modding of the game (no it isn't the mod as it doe this in vanilla as well).

[Stig]

Best moment ... when I won an MP battle where I was on the losing end the entire battle really, untill I charged my remaining cav into his general and won.
w00t

[Dark_Magician]

I'm having a lot of fun playing this game and would just like to hear from
others the best moments they've had playing.

I was most pleasantly surprised when I started as the Egiptians on VH/VH and looking at initial set up of the kingdom found out that the imam I was given in the beginning already had Jihad capability. Though available Jihad units were not overly impressive, they were cheap and thanks to this uber unit I could counter-Jihad the first Crusade against Jerusalem and, in second Jihad - early in the game as well - was able to briefly take Constantinople sailing away with astounding 37 000 plunder gold.

[Melanie T.]

User-Defined mission. Scottish V English (I always play Scotland...I'm from Ullapool).

Set it all up that I would seige, with the AI defending. Towers, catapults, ladders, the works...twice over.

So I'm all ready for a long and drawn out battle. Fresh cup of coffee at my side, and my Knightly kitty asleep at my feet.

First barrage is the rather childish act of throwing half a cow at the City Hall (or whatever it's called). Barely did anything. Before I remembered to stop the action, they started hurling balls of fire.

The first barrage killed the General, sitting on his horse at the Town Square.

The rest was just too easy. After winning the battle, I reset it and played again. Finally lost, since I forgot to take out a few key defenses before sending in my other seige equipment.

I could imagine the Generals speech:

"Men, I can promise you nothing but---what's that?"

~Mel

[RtkBedivere]

I was playing a bridge battle in my portugese campain and had about a 1/3 stack attacked by two 3/4 stacks.

Anyway im going into this thinking there is no way im gonna manage to beat these odds even though i have the bridge they are crossing (i had some xbows but no arch for fire arrows, i wish i had though ) Anyway about 25 minutes later the AI was down to about 2 full units of catapults, a bombard and 3 20 men units of pavise crossbows that i would rout and then they would regroup. All i had left was a single man. My lonly general left on the field.

He was horirble exhused but so was everything else on the feild after charging and chasing all their xbows off the feild i hid my general in some woods and triple speeded so that he would get bakc to fresh. When he was ready i started my charge about 15 seconds from contact with the first of the wavering catapults he got hit with a fire shot and died.

Theres still a hole in the drywall next to my desk

[Scotsmanforlife]

[yesdachi]

I just got excommunicated for the first time.

You never forget your first.

[Quillan]

Back in my Spanish campaign, I took Jerusalem in a crusade. I already had Antioch and Acre when the crusade was called, so I could get there quickly. When a spy showed that the city was minimally defended (1 general and 1 arab cavalry) I didn't bother with quality, only quantity. I went with a general, a bunch of turkomans, a couple of spanish units (I forget exactly what) and the rest was pilgrims and religious fanatics, with 2 units of unhorsed knights for muscle. I let the pilgrims do most of the dying, and captured the city. I moved the general and the turkomans out and left the remainder there to garrison the city, minimally reinforcing the garrison with some peasant archers and pavise crossbowmen brought in from Acre, and moved on.

Years later, still at war with Egypt, they show up with a full stack army to assault the city, and all I have is crap troops (2 religious fanatics, 5 pilgrims, 2 unhorsed knights, 3 pavise crossbowmen, 2 peasant archers, and the remaining 6 units spear militia). They have 2 generals, 5 units of tabardariyya, a unit of mamluk archers, 3 trebuchets, 2 catapults, and 7 units of saracen militia, and I have to defend the city. I decided not to try and defend the walls, as those are going to be crushed by all that artillery. I left the missile troops on the walls where they killed one general, then fell back to the square when they ran out of ammo. I used the rest to block the streets, pilgrims first, and left the unhorsed knights in side streets to hit flanks. In the end, I suffered horrendous casualties, but managed to kill their entire army and won the fight.

[Kraggenmor]

I've had a number of memorable battles but the one instance that I know is going to remain in my mind forever is this:

Playing as Spain I was laying a seige, I honestly forget at what town, it wasn't the where that matters.

The siege was meant to be a relatively inconsequential thing in the scheme of things. Another siege that just needs to happen. The defending force was small and I had actually planned to just wait them out while dealing with things elsewhere.

The defenders decided to sally forth and the ensuing fight was going predictably. They march, we march. They charge, we charge One by one the outnumbered abd outclassed foes beging routing back to the safety of their walls.

The last unit actively engaged with my troops is their general when I get the "The enemy general disgraces himself and flees the field while his men fight on."

"Actually it's his men that abandoned him" I respond. I figure some of the routed troops must have recovered while inside the walls.

I zoom in on the view I have of the troops chasing the General as he flees back to the town when it happens....

Just as he is drawing near, the gates slam shut and his horses slam headlong into the closed gates!

I actually had to pause the game stop playing while laughing that one off.

Guess he wasn't too popular with the troops, eh?

Poor fella.

[Quillan]

Heh, that's funny. Actually it's a deliberate change from RTW. In Rome, routers running back into the city could be chased through the gates by pursuers, resulting in the loss of the city. In M2, if there are enemy units anywhere near, the gates will not open to let the routers in. In your case, the gate was already open, but closed when the pursuers came near. I'm sure they AI wound up losing the city anyway, but it made sallying somewhat more of a gamble in RTW. If you did more than fire from the walls at the besiegers, you ran the risk of allowing the enemy into the city. Now, that won't happen, although you can lose units outside that won't make it back in.

[dopp]

I kind of miss that feature. It actually happened several times in history where fleeing troops were unable to shut the gates in time and allowed their pursuers to overrun the city; Alexander's sack of Thebes is a possible example. Of course then you'd lose half your army passing through the gateway as the enemy unloads his inexhaustible reservoirs of boiling oil on their heads...

[Midnight]

My Scottish armies (2 stacks) against 3 stacks of French - I took command of King Edward's army, and prepared to meet the enemy in the field. I found myself fighting halfway up a mountain, with French armies at the top and at the base to the sides, and then I get a message, "Reinforcements delayed." Argh!

I formed two fronts, placing my archers to try to counter the French missiles, which were in the army above. I used Edward and his 4 units of Feudal Knights, backed by some of my Spearmen and Highlander infantry to charge downhill at the stronger advancing side army, while the rest of my men (including some Pikes) attempted to hold off the remainer.

The Knights didn't last long, and Edward lost all his bodyguard and had to retreat, while my infantry were performing pretty well (ie, not running away), but it didn't look too good, even though I was exacting a heavy toll on the French, they were bleeding me dry. Finally, the reinforcement armies turned up, just in time to sweep away what was left of the French. I've never been so glad to see reinforcements arrive!

[Rebellious Waffle]

Heh, that's funny. Actually it's a deliberate change from RTW. In Rome, routers running back into the city could be chased through the gates by pursuers, resulting in the loss of the city. In M2, if there are enemy units anywhere near, the gates will not open to let the routers in. In your case, the gate was already open, but closed when the pursuers came near. I'm sure they AI wound up losing the city anyway, but it made sallying somewhat more of a gamble in RTW. If you did more than fire from the walls at the besiegers, you ran the risk of allowing the enemy into the city. Now, that won't happen, although you can lose units outside that won't make it back in.

Er...

::Looks back at sieges::


Yeah.

I've taken at least half a dozen cities that way in M2TW. The trick is to get your cavalry into the mob of routers and pace them, then halt once you're through the gate. The mob moves on, you don't, and you win the gate by default since no enemy units are nearby and you've got a gaggle of soldiers on the other side.

[pike master]

well it brought tears to my eyes.

tears of joy

the day i finally got lucky enough to get a multiplayer game to work

[Labareda]

Sailing to Cairo (from Rome) with my French General and a seige army.

Blasting down the walls, wading through the Egyptian defenders with the aim to the city with minimal losses. Retreating in order to minimise casualties. Sacking Cairo

General Dies of the pox !

My fiancé decides to take an interest in my game and sits on my knee. It is my ardent wish to display valour and strategic genius before the watchful gaze of my beloved.

The Mongol's arrive with a stack full of Kahn's guard and as I am deploying my troops along the broken walls of Cairo I realise the flaw in my plan. The walls are holier than his hatness.



Despite gritty defence from my Scott's guard, glorious charges of Chivalric Knights and the yelled of enthusiasm of my fiancé, I am totally overwhelmed by the Mongols and Cairo falls once more.

[Vlad_Impaler]

The ignominious death of my greatest general, Harry the Terrible. In his middle years he built up a reputation for savagery by purging the Iberian peninsula of dastardly Spaniards and putting all the Moors to the sword and torch. He took pleasure in hunting down fleeing peasants, and often let the archers get in some extra practice that way. Flaming ammo, of course.

After earning his full complement of Dread he took on two Crusades. Hoping to purify his soul, he instead found lots of new victims to mangle, enslave, etc. In spite of winning both Crusades, he still had 8 Dread when he earned the Warlord of Terror title. A small grin crept across my face. Harry, the improbably named Warlord of Terror was over sixty and on the far eastern edge of the map. Some leftover Turks from a recent conquest were nearby, 213 of them to be exact. Harry and his remaining 23 guards took them on. A night battle, raining or course, with flaming arrows falling all about and a mixed bag of rabble and elites coming uphill through the dense woods. Harry ignored the arrows and charged the spears. They took one look at his towering rage and fled before his fury. All of them ran on contact, some just before. A catapult crew scattered at the receiving end of a decent charge. The archers were no trouble and died quickly, the others were mopped up in detail. Checking the map for any stragglers, I noticed a little red arrow a ways behind me. I direct the Warlord of Terror in his unstoppable might to return and wipe them out.

With a fizzling, hissing *splat*, Harry was no more. The remaining four men of the catapult crew had returned and got off a very lucky shot against my dozen or so remaining horsemen charging toward them.

Rest in peace, Harry , Warlord of Terror. If the digital St. Peter gives you guff, drag him through hell naked behind a chariot.

[Gorghor]

My best moment in the game was in my last long campaign playing the English. I had conquered most of modern day France, was allied to Spain and was mostly occupied with setting up camp in the holy lands. The only true annoyance was Milan, whose empire spanned up to the southeast of France, southern Germany and Switzerland. They were constantly sending fulls stacks on my French cities, besieging up to 4 cities in one single turn. Obviously this made it somewhat hard to develop my economy in those areas, and the best of my army was already engaged in the far east. Each time I tried to build up an army to go slaughter those ugly Milanese swines in their homelands, it was ambushed by danes or redirected back to my lands in order to save some attacked city.

After years of this terror, I accidently noticed I had a 34 year old snobby princess who'd been sitting in Toulouse for 18 years (would be nice if the game told you when a princess has her "coming of age"). She had no hearts (actually if the game permitted she would have been in the minus) but proved to be of great strategic importance!

I sent her out to Milan, where General Antonio The Honourable was governing. I though, "bah, why not.." although her chances in success were about 11%. And what do you know, I had a five star general in the middle of my most hated enemy's land. I immediatly recruited the 2 pavise crossbowmen and 1 band of spearmen available there. Milan sent a half stack full of spearmen and various cavalry to me. Heroic victory... and so on... I conquered Milan, Venice and a couple other of tows in the area. By that time the Milanese were sending their troops back home to try and stop the carnage, but it was already too late. A few turns later and Milan was no more.

Now THAT is what I call memorable! ;)

Another enjoyable part was, later in that same game, when the Timurids invaded the Holy Lands and I decimated most of their 8-9 star generals with a couple assassins.

[Tiberius maximus]

i was playing as england so naturally the scots were in my site so i got my first good stack of men. marched on them then over them. i put all my archers on a hill and spearmen at the base and just demolished them it was my first victory

[Gorm]

Mine would be when a character with my actual first name became faction heir and then king (England). I made sure he was doing everything to become one of the most sucessful crusader kings! Sad day when he died...snif.

(My girlfriend thought I had cheated and put my name in!)

[zahidmaqbool]

My most memorable moment was when I was playing as turks. The Timurids laid siege to my castle with 3 stacks of armies somewhat around 3300 people.. and I was defending with and army of 800 which had few JHI , few JMusk... I defeated them very badly.. I stood at the gate didn't move from there and chopped one by one the entire timurid army.. JHI are an awesome unit, even to finish the elephant units.. It was a wonderful feeling..

[IrishArmenian]

Definitley an epic siege defense battle as the Russians against the Aztec Hordes. I had about 900 soldiers and the enemy had about 3000. Needless to say, it was a hard fought battle, but the Rus finally claimed victory!

[Ars Moriendi]

Most memorable moment for me came in an absolutely inconsequential battle. Playing Venice, I had a stack in march near Zagreb. It had to get there ASAP, so I left behind the carrocio they were carrying. Sure enough, the HRE with whom I was at war, attacked the single carrocio unit with a small army made of 1 unit of mailed knights (60) and two half units of armored sarges (40-50 each) - against my 45 standard carriers (pushers ?).
I almost clicked autoresolve, but I thought "hey, I never seen how the carrocio standard looks on battlemap" so I chose to play it out. I simply camped on a small hill, ordered them to drop the standard and put the soldiers in a square formation behind the standard as I thought it would protect them somewhat from the knights charge.
Then I went 6.0x and waited for the inevitable outcome. Seconds later (half a minute?), I noticed the HRE spearmen routing and I went to 1.0 again to take a closer look : the sarges who were attacking my right flank routed with about 10-15 men each. The mailed knights were down to ~30, and kept charging my left, pulling back and charging again. "Tough little buggers, this carrocio dudes" I thought, and waited some more. Soon enough there was only one carrocio dude standing. I watched, unbelievingly, this one guy there, defending the standard by himself and simply refusing to rout. Mailed knights, 9 of them remaining, were circled around him, taking turns hitting. He would stagger, recover and then stab back with his spear, each stab dropping a knight. He did it 6 times in a row before finally going down, with only 3 HRE soldiers left alive...

How's that "last stand" for an inspirational act of bravery and valor ? I don't usually care much for my soldiers, there are always others to replace the dead, but this one little spearmen I really felt sorry for..

[Thurak]

Defeating the Mongols this way...

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

One crossed swords symbol was the battleground for two heroic wins. Most of those battles ambushes. Very funny.

EDIT: Fixed link ~sapi

[Abokasee]

Want to know the result?

Releif, now I have more money to spend on bigger armys and cities!!

Im not sure what spend it on...

[Callahan9119]

playing as the moors and seeing the new castles in mountains for the first time, was a long bloody battle taking it from the spanish

[Rakker]

My most memorable moment was a while a go. I was playing for the english. A french stack under command of a captain entered my lands near Caen. Unlucky for them i created just there a brand new army with state of the art units and modern armour. Of course i was eager to test these new units...
There was only one little trouble, I wasn't yet at war with the french. However next turn a nice solution was presented to my eager troops. The french capitan decided to fight for his own instead of the french crown. And a rebel stack is a splendid training for my brand new army

So I moved my army to attack those rebels. The rebel army consisted of some townmilitia two units of light cavalery and some crosbowmen. My army has plenty of billmens, dfk's, longbowmens, some mailed Knights and hobilars. The battlefield was a nice open field surrounded by forests. I deployed my inf. in front, archers at the back, and the cav at flank.

When te battle began, i saw the enemy infantry line deployed at a hill. His crosbows came skirmishing down the hill. Of course i charged in my cavalery who chased the crosbows from the field into the forest where they began to flee, pursued by my cav. In the meantime my heavy infantry (billmen, DFK's)
marched uphill to molest the town militia wich formed the enemies main line.

When the infantry engaged all seems to go very well. However suddenly out of the forests at both my flanks there came the enemies light cav. One unit charged in on my longbows, who where watching the unslaught at the top of the hill. The longbows decided quick to run instead of to fight. The other light cav unit charged in on my right flank where my billmens were fighting. At that moment those billmens also decided to run causing a chain reaction. In 5 seconds my complete infantry army fleed and runned back to the sea.

My cavalry happily chasing down the last crossbowmen, saw the disaster in their back, and trotted back to the battlefield only to face a huge number of town militia in the forest wich they couldn't defeat. After a few brave charges i decided to pull my cav back to safety

I was complety astonished. I never saw the AI perform such a perfect ambush with such a disatrous result. The AI set a trap, and i was stupid enough to trip into it. Because I outnumbered my foe, I had superior material and i seldom lose a battle against the Ai, I wasn't aware enough of the possible dangers.

The result: my brandnew army has collapsed. It took almost 3 years to recover it and destroy that french rebel armee.

But it was quite amusing to fight that battle, even more when i realised the Ai has lured me into his trap and the battle was lost. This is how the game is ment to be...