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    Default Iranian elections look to knock back Ahmadinejad

    Now, I'm aware that Iranian democracy leaves something to be desired (but it is still more representative than any other country in the Middle East save Israel or what was Lebanon ) but the recent elections appear to show that the Iranian electorate is tiring of Imadinnerjacket's rhetoric.

    He was elected primarily to address the pressing needs of the poor, as many demagogues are. As per type, he has spent most of his time demonising the Great Satan as a crowd pleaser, instead of sorting out their problems. The early indications are that people still vote conservative but to candidates who support more emphasis on internal affairs rather than baiting the west.

    I suspect this is a moment where swift and brave action would bring dividends. The Iraq report urges a weakened President Bush to work with Iran. President Ahmadinejad is now looking weaker himself, and needs to find a face-saving way to re-prioritise efforts - and maybe recognise that that bomb might just be too expensive. If guarantees could be provided, and he could be involved in a pivotal way that makes Iran a more solid regional power through conventional means, we might just have the possibility of a workable power structure for the Middle East - especially since Syria too is looking to be less of a pariah.

    The results are still pending but - surely it's time to seize the moment and start talking?

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    Early results show Iranian president's conservative opponents leading vote
    By Ali Akbar Dareini, Associated Press Writer
    Published: 18 December 2006

    Early returns showed hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's conservative opponents leading in elections for local councils and a powerful clerical body, widely considered a test of popular approval for the hardline leader.

    Ahmadinejad's anti-Israel rhetoric and staunch stand on Iran's nuclear program are believed to have divided the conservatives who voted him into power. Some conservatives feel Ahmadinejad has spent too much time confronting the West and failed to deal with Iran's struggling economy.

    Tehran newspapers and semiofficial news agencies reported unofficial results Saturday showing that no single party would be able to claim outright victory in Friday's elections, partly because of divisions within the conservative faction.

    Iran's political scene is broadly split between conservative and pro-reform camps.

    Officials have said preliminary results are expected Sunday, with final results coming Monday or later.

    The semiofficial Mehr news agency said unofficial results showed candidates who support Ahmadinejad trailing in Tehran's municipal elections behind supporters of Mayor Mohammed Bagher Qalibaf, a moderate conservative.

    Former President Hashemi Rafsanjani, considered an Ahmadinejad opponent, was leading in the Assembly of Experts election in Tehran, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported. The assembly is a body of 86 senior clerics that monitors Iran's supreme leader and chooses his successor.

    The race for the assembly is dominated by two main rivals: Rafsanjani and Ayatollah Mohammad Taqi Mesbah Yazdi, widely seen as Ahmadinejad's spiritual mentor.

    Reformists are hoping the local elections would show there is still public support for their policies. They held the presidency and dominated parliament and local councils in the late 1990s and early 2000s, but hard-liners have dominated in recent years.

    Government officials touted Friday's high voter turnout as a "message" to the West.

    "Through their impressive turnout under the current sensitive circumstances, the Iranian people sent a clear message to enemies of Iran's development," IRNA quoted Interior Minister Mostafa Pourmohammadi as saying.

    The minister was apparently referring to Western critics of Iran's nuclear program. Iran says its program is intended only for generating fuel, but the U.S. and its European allies believe it aims to produce nuclear weapons.

    Iran started having council elections after a reform introduced in 1999 by President Mohammed Khatami.

    More than 233,000 candidates ran for more than 113,000 council seats in cities, towns and villages across the vast nation on Friday. Local councils elect the mayor and approve community budgets and planning projects.

    All municipal council candidates, including some 5,000 women, were vetted by parliamentary committees dominated by hard-liners. The committees disqualified about 10,000 nominees, reports said.

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    Default Re: Iranian elections look to knock back Ahmadinejad

    Smells like optimism.

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    Default Re: Iranian elections look to knock back Ahmadinejad

    It always smells good though.
    However even if he deos win the election he might have to start working for the good of his country.

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    Default Re: Iranian elections look to knock back Ahmadinejad

    [QUOTE=Banquo's Ghost]The results are still pending but - surely it's time to seize the moment and start talking?[quote]

    Sure looks like it, this is very very good.

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    Default Re: Iranian elections look to knock back Ahmadinejad

    Now we should arrange for free vibrators to go out with "Non-proliferation Weekly" and everyone will mellow out a bit
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    Default Re: Iranian elections look to knock back Ahmadinejad

    Great.

    Now all we need is a true reform wing willing to care about others than the urban upper middle class.
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    Default Re: Iranian elections look to knock back Ahmadinejad

    I just don't see any real incentive for Iran or Syria to have any genuine desire to avoid a civil war in Iraq. Their Shiite bretheren far out number the Sunni in Iraq. Both sides seem more intent on eliminating their rivals, than any meaningful reconsiliation. There's little to no united Iraqi national identity, only tribal, religious sect, identity. At what cost would Iran agree to help stabilize Iraq, be allowed to build nukes unhindered? What would satisfy Syria, control of Lebanon?
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    Default Re: Iranian elections look to knock back Ahmadinejad

    Meh, I reckon he was just trying to be a new Nasser.

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