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    Default Finally....Geonoese Crossbows in England !!!

    I love the xBows and thought I would try to add them to England. I know this is not "historically accurate" but I wanted a change in England.


    A HUGE thank you to Musashi for helping me out tremendously !!!!






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    Guardian of the Fleet Senior Member Shahed's Avatar
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    Default Re: Finally....Geonoese Crossbows in England !!!

    Awesome ! Do you mind posting step by step how to do it ?

    Do you add these as mercs to English provinces ?
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    Default Re: Finally....Geonoese Crossbows in England !!!

    Yeah, that sounds cool. How generalizable is it? I'd like to port some other units around as well.

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    It's a very horribly complicated process, to be honest.
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    Default Re: Finally....Geonoese Crossbows in England !!!

    Come on...

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    Fill in the blanks :P

    Or are there some threads where it's explained here, at TWC, .com whatever ? I always wanted some Tuaregs and Camel Gunners in my Armies in the Maghreb.
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    Default Re: Finally....Geonoese Crossbows in England !!!

    I added them to the normal recruiting window for Citadels. Only way I knew how to add them.....

    The big drawback is Milan no longer has xBows since I didn't want to go even further into the process and actually add a completely separate unit in England. I think I know how to but I want to enjoy this "victory" for now !!!


    This was a very difficult, tedious, and frustrating process. Alot of hair pulling and getting very angry. After 4-5 days and alot of help from Musashi I finally got the right script and everything working OK.


    I could always post what you need to change but you will not have regular xBows in Milan....only Genoese xBow Militia until I figure out how to add another unit.

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    Default Re: Finally....Geonoese Crossbows in England !!!

    So, how did they get the English colours?
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    England already has a texture file set-up in the ln_brigandine_heavy/texture folder.

    I originally tried to add these to Scotland but I could not "open" a texture file to edit in Scotland colors.

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    Default Re: Finally....Geonoese Crossbows in England !!!

    Although I offered to recolor one to scotland's colors for him hehe.

    It would be a pages long guide to explain all this. It really is that complicated.

    I put a thread in mod chat (linked from my "Byzantine Musketeers" thread here in the Citadel) that attempts to explain how to edit the battle_models.modeldb file, but it's kind of a nightmare honestly.

    All the information you need is here, but it's scattered around a bit.

    You need a hex editor, notepad, and Alpaca's text.bin converter to get a new unit completely into the game.
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    Default Re: Finally....Geonoese Crossbows in England !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by GotGame36
    I love the xBows and thought I would try to add them to England. I know this is not "historically accurate" but I wanted a change in England...
    Though Genoese Crossbowmen as English units {raised on English soil} would be ahistorical , the English did use a lot of crossbows right up to the early-mid 1200s .
    King Richard was particulary fond of the weapon and took care to always have plenty of crossbowmen in his armies {on his crusade , this included Genoese crossbows too , the Genoese Sailors were crossbowmen} .

    The game really needs High and Late period event triggers similar to the Marian reform event trigger .
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