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    Member Member Mega Dux Bob's Avatar
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    Default Missing history in the game

    I am kinda of surprised of the stuff missing from MTW2 that IMHO would have been cool, or at lest enough of a factor to effect the game.

    So far I count

    * The Black Death.

    * 14th Century peasant revolts in France and England that nearly took out those countries as factions in MTW2 terms.

    * The Great Schism in the Catholic church (three popes at once!)

    * The sieges of Rhodes and Malta. (Knights of St John verses the Ottomans in a Mediterranean Island cage match to death complete with primitive flame throwers!)

    * The Protestant Reformation (a third Christian religion for the game)

    * The Cathars (southern France and Northern Italy go heretic in the 12th century)

    But I suppose the Warcraft surplus catapults make up for it.

    Anything else?
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    Default Re: Missing history in the game

    Plenty... but I'm happy anyway, I got running horses that can shoot on the move !!!

    And Black Death (commonly referred to as BD) is in btw.
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    Ricardus Insanusaum Member Bob the Insane's Avatar
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    Default Re: Missing history in the game

    Yeah, the Black Death is definately in...

    The rest is correct, though arguably the Cathars and Protestantism are covered by heresy... (runs and hides)

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    Cathars or something like it could totally happen - you get a heretic in some province and he doesn't get torched but instead converts the preists sent after him and Heresy gets worse and worse untill the unrest makes the province go rebel. It would never happen to a player, of course, because a player wouldn't tolerate a Heretic running loose in their province for more than a couple turns, never mind a bunch of them for a long time. But I've seen AI lose provinces to uncontrolled heresy. Its probably a bigger threat to AI Moslem or Orthodox factions who don't have Inquisitors spawning to help them out.

    As for the protestant reformation, that didn't really start causing political turmoil untill after the normal timescale of the game. Game nominally ends in, what, like 1530 or something? The real trouble didn't get going untill much later in the 16th century and then into the 17th.

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    Default Re: Missing history in the game

    High starting heresy in Toulouse simulates some of the issues with Cathars/Raymond of Toulouse etc.

    As for inquisitors, they seem to never target heretics, only my priests! Definitely no help there. Though they do reduce heresy.

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    Hope guides me Senior Member Hosakawa Tito's Avatar
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    Default Re: Missing history in the game

    I'd like to see Leonardo Da Vinci added. He developed many state of the art military technologies, like the wheel lock pistol.
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    Sure seems that way, Katank. But I have witnessed, with my own eyes, an Inquisitor zap a heretic when there were no other targets availible.

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