Mohammed - a paedophile?

[Specialist290]

I'm not going to say anything about the topic itself, but I do find it very ironic in a historical sense that a member titled "Patriarch of Constantinople" is defending Mohammed

That is all.

[Fragony]

what are backrooms for anyway? if you can stil post in them and read the threads what purpose do they serve?

are they only accesible by full members or something?

It's for the more heated discussions, politics and such, I can see this one going there

[Stig]

Aye this one should have been there anyway, everything to do with religion isn't history, as it's all fiction anyway

[doc_bean]

According to one rather knowledgable muslim I had a rather heated debate with a long time ago, it's a mistake and she was actually 17 (so something). He mentioned a whole bunch of info that conflicted with her 'young' age, like Stig mentioned, there are a whole lot of different Hadiths, they aren't the Quo'ran (sp?) so they aren't infallible.

Besides, Mohammed was the vessel, Allah him(?)self dictated the Quo'ran, anything the Prophet besides that is of leseer importance and can't be used against it.

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

Comparison of hadith of Aisha's age with hadith of Laylat al-Qadr, in which 1 was used for 21, 3 for 23, 5 for 25 and so on, suggest that maybe Aisha's reports were transmitted literally and 16 became 6 and 19 became 9, as it is a way of talking in Arabic language when base is already known

I think that disproves it.

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

Besides, Mohammed was the vessel, Allah him(?)self dictated the Quo'ran, anything the Prophet besides that is of leseer importance and can't be used against it.

Yes. He was a messenger and nothing more. Since the Quran is the word of God, it shouldn't be used against Mohammed.

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

I'm not going to say anything about the topic itself, but I do find it very ironic in a historical sense that a member titled "Patriarch of Constantinople" is defending Mohammed

That is all.

I will defend prophets and holy men of their religion.

[Adrian II]

i am surprised that this isnt brought up more often.

Because anachronistic debates about religious issues are a total bore. It's mythology, man. Neither Mohammed nor Christ really existed. Try to fathom the wisdom of the holy books, don't treat them like a guidebook for modern etiquette.

There are similar 'issues' with the Bible. Always good for a laugh among militant atheists. Eve necessarily had to be incestuous with her sons to 'beget' the next generation. Same applies to Noah, his wife and their kids. Oh, how scandalous, how irreconcilable, how debatable to the n-th degree.

[Fragony]

Because anachronistic debates about religious issues are a total bore. It's mythology, man. Neither Mohammed nor Christ really existed. Try to fathom the wisdom of the holy books, don't treat them like a guidebook for modern etiquette.

Yes they did, there have been many that claimed the title of Messias, how about Bar Kochba, fantasy as well? It's just all that stuff around them, if you ask me, no they weren't holy figures, just important people from that time.

[Fragony]

Speaking of similar issues on the bible, it would explain the 'I have come with the sword' part. Probably wasn't jezus they were talking about as the messiah, but Bar Kochba.

[MSB]

are they only accesible by full members or something?

Yes.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Was this started here or was it moved from the Backroom?

[Stig]

Was this started here or was it moved from the Backroom?

As I said before, Tarrak wanted to move it from the Monastry to the Backroom (where it belongs), but he moved it too the wrong Backroom
Since I'm a mod on a forum using a similiar engine myself I can't blame him, sometimes it's pretty hard to say what's what

[Ibn Munqidh]

i dont lack respect for mohammed "just" because he was a paedophile. there are many other aspects of his life that i would take issue with but i think this is the most sinister point and i would prefer to concentrate on this in this thread.

May you be kind enough and share those other aspects with us?

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

As I said before

Oops - my apologies. I didn't read all the way through.

[TosaInu]