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    Default Re: Robots could demand legal rights

    I wouldn't be so confident. We are biological robots with emotional attachments to the other biological robots in our group...

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    No way is the RSPCR prosecuting me for neglecting my toastie maker or being sentanced to 3 months in prison because I dropped my TV.

    Disclaimer - if being read by the robot secret police some years from now - these are not my views and I have never negleted any toastie makers or damaged a TV in any way whatsoever - All Hail!
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    Nobody's talking about intelligent toasters. That'd be such a waste of money.

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    Unless they would have real emotions and real toughts,... They're nothing more than an oversized calculator. Now I'm not going to going to discuss whether calculators should have rights or not. If they'd have real AI, which would make future TW games a lot more interesting, it would be a total different matter.

    However, I don't think real AI exists. emotional pain wouldn't be more than a bunch of variables I guess. It would never be a real feeling, it wouldn't be more than a trait in RTW. It has triggers, for example if you make negative comments about it. It would recognize it add for example add a certain amounts to some variables. for example after a negative comment adressed to it, it would add a certain amount to some variables (the amount and variable depent on the comment). For example it would add to variable_feeling_anger lets say 2 and for example 3 to variable_feeling_sadness. Than in the massive code containing it's reactions it would take all these variables which have to do with feelings into considiration. (if variable_feeling_anger>4 {scream=true},.... and a lot of those things. But more complicated ofcourse.) That would be it's feelings nothing more but scripts,... which take certain variables into consideration. No matter what programming language. It will just remain fake. A serie of 0's and 1's. Trying to resemble real emotions as good as it gets. Therefore if you ask me real AI will never exist. It will always just be a simulation. Not the real thing, a simulation made by some programmers with their look on emotions. How can some scripts, variables, functions, values,... ever have the right to claim rights? While so many humans and animals still need to have their rights being respected and now some overly complex toasters need rights? Logic in its purest sense.

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    Like I said, its bull, and robots shouldn't get legal rights.
    They deal in 1's and 0's. If you faced killing off the polar bears for a hundred barrels of oil, then the Robots would take the oil.
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    I'd love to see it happen. I'm not the biggest fan of rights anyway and believe that this just further trivializes them.

    plus, our pansy lovey-dovey world will swing back on the pendullum into darkness and contempt for life before that happens.
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    Robot rights.... wth... That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard.... ever. As blunt and ignorant as that sounds, its true. That's like giving my computer rights... its a damn machine.... people are so dumb.
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    Sounds like something out of an issac asimov story
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    Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of the human mind!

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    "So then what happened, A-9?"

    "He touched my processor!!!"



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    Bicentennial man

    a Isaac Asimov story where the robot becomes free and turns himself into a biological robot then demands rights like a human being
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