Man of Hour and Dread questions

**madchoochter** · 12-21-2006, 18:06

Hi,

What do you need to get Man of the Hour? I thought it was a heroic victory but I've been receiving them for clear victories with as few as 30 men killed (e.g. sent 3 units of mailed knights to kill a hobilar unit which rebelled). Is clear > heroic? I've always thought it was close - clear - heroic.

Also some of my English generals gain dread but after a while seem to lose traits for no apparent reason. The traits are just gone. Is there any reason for this or am I imagining it? The dread did not decrease via civ traits, the traits just disappeared after a peroid of inactivity.

**xemitg** · 12-21-2006, 18:28

The game seems to want you to keep a specific general to city ratio. This is just a general observation, but when I’m expanding quickly it seems that all my family members get busy because I suddenly have a baby boom. I also seem to get many Man of Hour’s when I’m a bit low on generals while expanding.

**trickydicky** · 12-21-2006, 18:33

I always thought you needed a heroic victory myself. The only reason I can think of offhand, is you might have been low on generals.
That might explain why you get offers after clear victories, and not heroic.

Your right with the order, close - clear - heroic

The traits dissapearing is a little weird. Possible bug maybe? I haven't noticed this myself, I'll pay more attention from now on and see if I get this too.

No-one else had this problem?

**Merlin's Apprentice** · 12-21-2006, 19:23

got a msg that a family member lost a trait last night
checked him and it was gone

**trickydicky** · 12-21-2006, 20:13

Originally Posted by Merlin's Apprentice

got a msg that a family member lost a trait last night
checked him and it was gone

What was the trait he lost, and can you remember what you/he did to get rid of it, if anything?

**mor dan** · 12-21-2006, 20:48

yeah, this is what annoys me about trying to assassintate family trees. once you advance to the next turn, they replace the guy you just killed.

**katank** · 12-21-2006, 21:14

Originally Posted by mor dan

yeah, this is what annoys me about trying to assassintate family trees. once you advance to the next turn, they replace the guy you just killed.

This is why you need tons and tons of assasins all striking in the same turn preferably. All of this means that while small factions (2-3 settlements) maybe easy to wipe out via assassination, big factions will be almost impossible due to the general-settlement ratio.

@ OP, the settlement ratio is by far the biggest factor. If you are desperately short on generals, I think even a close victory is enough.

Also, the game is quite generous at times. In my French game, I lost my 5* general while fighting off a Milanese stack. Despite his loss, it was a heroic victory (total annihilation of enemy by my smaller force). I was immediately consolated by the fact that the game gave me a 6* man of the hour who had wall taker, night fighter, confident defender, eager (bonus to movement) etc. as a replacement. By far the best man of the hour I ever got.

**Merlin's Apprentice** · 12-21-2006, 20:49

Originally Posted by trickydicky

What was the trait he lost, and can you remember what you/he did to get rid of it, if anything?

was something like public drinking

he was just sitting in a castle

**trickydicky** · 12-22-2006, 13:36

Originally Posted by Merlin's Apprentice

was something like public drinking

he was just sitting in a castle

Cool, looks like some traits you might gain in a city, you can lose in a castle....must be all that fresh air and training!

Kings Personal Trainer:
"Dammit man I don't care who you are, the King wants you fit, now run! three more laps before you get a drink. Of Water"

Heavy Drinking General:
"God, I could murder a pint!" *pants heavily, and starts off on another lap*