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    Default Re: The biggest threat to the "free world".

    Pakistan for one ? When was the last time Washington protested about Musfarrah not exactly being a democratically elected ruler...?
    That's not what I'm asking about, Washington has supported certain dictators for a long time (not that that makes it right). He seems to be suggesting the USA is becoming more tyrannical.

    which is the exact purpose of laws to begin with;
    To limit free speech?
    further, in the modern view on the matter, to ensure a certain minimum degree of "fair game" and prevent exploitative developements.
    Why? Are people too stupid or not mature enough that the government must set guidelines for them? Note the quote I was responding to- it was from Abraham Lincoln, and the poster was using that quote to bolster his argument.

    He cannot both quote a man from 150 years ago and then resort to the modern socialist view to explain why you don't agree with that man regardig liberty. It's especially ironic considering the quote and how ready you are to trample o the right of people to do business freely.

    Do you ever listen to yourself?

    The Republicans have become masters at everything you just mentioned over the last decade. They have been doing it ever since they came to power.

    Good Lord man! Try to have a little perspective beyond ingrained dogma.
    So, how have the Republicans (besides RINO McCain) made free speech illegal? How are they limiting the right to trade and property? Are they calling for banning guns?

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    Default Re: The biggest threat to the "free world".

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    So, how have the Republicans (besides RINO McCain) made free speech illegal? How are they limiting the right to trade and property? Are they calling for banning guns?
    Those weren't the points I was originally responding to. What I was responding to was:

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    They want to control what people can say, how people can do business between themselves, and take away our rights for 'safety'.
    Freedom of speech/press?

    The Bush admin has been involved in a relentless assault on both. Locking up journalists, making gov't less and less transparent, hitting broadcasters with huge fines for one misplaced tit or mistakenly dropped F-bomb.

    Business?

    I recall recently the Bush admin actually forced a hotel in Mexico to throw out paying customers just because they were Cuban. They won't even limit their interferance to their own country. Or how about the softwood lumber issue?

    Taking away rights for safety?

    Hmmm. Patriot Act, anyone? No fly lists?

    I'm not saying the Dems don't (or won't) do these things. But to say that they are the only ones doing it is utter nonsense.
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    Lol. Lincoln suspended habeus corpus. I wouldnt be using him as an example against tyranny.
    ...trying to remember to spell check...

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