Quote Originally Posted by Nakamura Lobato
I guess the confusion comes in from James Clavel's Shogun. I thought that he based it on historical fact, and that Turnball confirmed the 1st use of firearms at The Battle of Sekigahara by the Tokugawa army? But that doesn't sound right at all. Didn't Nobunaga use them earlier?
From Wikipedia: "The first arquebuses were introduced in Japan in 1543 by Portuguese traders (Fernão Mendes Pinto), who landed by accident on Tanegashima, an island south of Kyūshū in the region controlled by the Shimazu clan. By 1550, copies of the Portuguese arquebus were being produced in large quanties, and they were often seen on the battlefields all over Japan."


STW begins in 1530 and has the Portuguese arrival scripted to occur in 1543 if you have the required options in place. Somewhat later the Dutch arrive with the musket, but my understanding is that the musket wasn't used in Japan during the Sengoku Jidai. The Japanese manufactured copies of the Portuguese arquebusier (teppo). The Japanese teppo was of better workmanship and that is reflected in STWmod by giving them higher accuracy. Since we don't have seasonal turns in STWmod, the campaign starts earlier than 1530 and we don't have the availability of the teppo tied to the arrival of Portuguese traders. As a result, it may be possible to get teppo earlier than 1543. I think barocca had to choose a compromise solution because of the differences between STW and MTW.