Massilia siege relief bug?

**Makanyane** · 12-23-2006, 21:27

I'm playing a mod and just had CTD after winning a battle where I beseiged Massilia (BI) and AI attempted to relieve siege (from Massilia side of bridge), mod map is same as vanilla in that area and I vaguely remember that being a problem in vanilla too - assume possibly to do with confusion over retreat path for beaten army???? Does anyone else remember if that was the case and / or if there is a map fix?

**Ciaran** · 12-24-2006, 12:30

Did the AI attack you with a stack outside of Massilia and the Massilia garrison came to the field as reinfocements? Did you completely reduce the garrison army?

There seems to be a bug with reinforced battles, especially when a city is captured due to a complete rout of the garrison army, but I´ve never experienced that in a vanilla Imperial campaign, but very often in Provincial campaigns which mods use.

An additional note: The unit size you´re playing on may have an influence on the occurence of this bug as well. On Huge unit size I had way more ctds than on large size.

**Makanyane** · 12-24-2006, 15:15

Originally Posted by Ciaran

Did the AI attack you with a stack outside of Massilia and the Massilia garrison came to the field as reinfocements? Did you completely reduce the garrison army?

Yes.
Crash was after battle having killed the enemy garrison, CTD occured on selecting exterminate / occupy options. If I didn't take out garrison all was fine and I could take city as usual on later go.

There seems to be a bug with reinforced battles, especially when a city is captured due to a complete rout of the garrison army, but I´ve never experienced that in a vanilla Imperial campaign, but very often in Provincial campaigns which mods use.

Hmm, I've had that before in various mods when the reinforcements attacked me from behind (opposite side to city). Hadn't noticed it other than in this location when armies came from same side. Was playing a mod - but its installed over Main campaign not Provincial folder.

An additional note: The unit size you´re playing on may have an influence on the occurence of this bug as well. On Huge unit size I had way more ctds than on large size.

I was playing on huge, I'm surprised that makes a difference as crash is effectively after battle though....but, hmmm.

**Ciaran** · 12-25-2006, 22:04

Originally Posted by Makanyane

Yes.
Crash was after battle having killed the enemy garrison, CTD occured on selecting exterminate / occupy options. If I didn't take out garrison all was fine and I could take city as usual on later go.

Hmm, I've had that before in various mods when the reinforcements attacked me from behind (opposite side to city). Hadn't noticed it other than in this location when armies came from same side. Was playing a mod - but its installed over Main campaign not Provincial folder.

So it´s the infamous garrison crash, the part about the Provincial campaign was just a guess on my part, and not even an educated one, I suppose. I´m just trying to rule out any possibilities. I wonder, does this crash happen in a provincial campaign of the vanilla game?

[QOUTE]I was playing on huge, I'm surprised that makes a difference as crash is effectively after battle though....but, hmmm.[/QUOTE]

It´s just something I´ve noticed playing The Crusades, Chivalry and Corsair invasion on Huge, after battles with reinforcements the game was more prone to crashing when when I played on Huge than when I played on large. Might be my system, though, but the crashes tend to happen in the transition between battle and strategic screen. It´s perhaps unrelated to the city occupation crash mentioned above (that also tends to happen when I play on Large), but still...

**nikolai1962** · 12-29-2006, 11:08

I've got one of these too, except with two AI factions--besieging army attacked by a relief army, besiegers win well enough to take the city. Were you at 1 turn left of your siege?