Massilia siege relief bug?

[Makanyane]

BozosLiveHere, thanks for the info. its good to know to avoid that, I didn't have that conditional in mod either though. I've added stuff with BattleOdds in ancillaries but that is used in vanilla...

Ciaran, I've had reinforcement CTD more often in other mods including a home version that only had very little alterations to traits (just some of the religions set at birth triggers). I'll have to figure out way of designing strat file to provoke a reinforcement relief battle near the beginning of the game and try swapping traits files around.

Nikolai, thanks but no mine doesn't, it starts as city with wooden wall

[Dol Guldur]

I have not experienced this CTD in (the heavily-modded) Corsair Invasion - and have tested many many hours of it. That does not mean it can't happen of course. Maybe someone can explain in more detail exactly the circumstances of this problem? Screenshots et. al.

[Makanyane]

I have not experienced this CTD in (the heavily-modded) Corsair Invasion

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Dol Guldur, the general reinforcement CTD that's getting referred to is, as far as I know, when human player is besieging settlement, enemy army of same type as occupier attacks human player in attempt to relieve siege. Garrison army comes out to fight as reinforcement, human player wins battle and exterminates garrison army to the extent that the city is unoccupied. After battle when player gets option to occupy/enslave/or exterminate city and selects one of those buttons, game CTD's.

I noticed problem when playing Arthurian and in their thread here:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=63122
its mentioned that Chivalry also had problem, and in post #14 that they fixed one CTD by changing map.

I don't seem to have a general problem with the reinforcement CTD, hence original question about Masilia geography. But predictably now I'm trying to duplicate CTD I can't (from original pre_battle save) don't think I changed anything that would have fixed it in meantime so either I'm not getting quite the same (necessary) battle results or there is a random element.

[Ciaran]

There definitely is a random element to it, I´ve often saved a battle on the setup screen (experience, and a couple of gameplay hours lost due to one of these ctds makes me do that), and when I reloaded the game and played the battle again (the result most of the time being identical) it didn´t crash.

[Dol Guldur]

Hmm..well I've not come across it - I think, as Makanyane says, is to try and duplicate it in vanilla and post the saved game so that we can test different circumstances. If it can be duplicated that easily.

[BozosLiveHere]

In EB we had reinforcement CTDs even on field battles.

[Makanyane]

I think, as Makanyane says, is to try and duplicate it in vanilla and post the saved game so that we can test different circumstances. If it can be duplicated that easily.

Sorry, on the grounds that I currently can't duplicate it even from the save before battle that gave problem in the first place, me suggesting that was optimism overtaking reality. On the grounds that no-one else seems to think it happens in vanilla anyway I'd have to start from mod, duplicate problem including AI action (which as I currently can't get CTD again even from save seems unlikely to be reliable test) and if CTD re-occurs regularly then re-introduce vanilla files to find fix. Overall unless problem is more severe / common like EB's sounded I'm not sure there's really a way for me to test.

RE: the Massilia only factor, I know I've had problems with the darn place before as when battle came up I automatically thought to save, with the region name in save file as I was automatically half expecting a problem. Unfortunately I can't really remember from my playing career whether previous problems occurred with vanilla, RTR, War Map, slightly modded versions of those, or own grown (but essentially similar) large European map. Now have big notebook by the side of computer, with CTD log written on cover, so hopefully I don't have to do the 'I vaguely remember' thing again.