Completly not reading.

[Mooks]

I dont know if this is considered a bug, since I consider bugs in-game problems. But I cant get my mtw2 cd read on my computer. It doesnt read on my other comp either, but does read on my brother's labtop. The cd holder flashes its light a few times then it goes off.

No idea whats wrong

[BigTex]

Is your drive a DVD drive?

[Mooks]

Nope, a CD drive. There is only one drive, and it works perfectly on any other game.

[BigTex]

Nope, a CD drive. There is only one drive, and it works perfectly on any other game.

"There's your problem"

M2TW is a DVD, you'd have to upgrade your drive to be able to play it on that computer. Yes though, most games try to avoid using DVD's as alot of people will unknowingly have this problem, but M2TW is 7 gig's uncompressed. So Using CD's it would require upwards of 7-8 of those lil suckers. I know quite a few games do give you the choice of buying the CD or DVD version. Not sure if this holds true with CA and M2TW though.

[Cos3]

You can buy a DVD re-writer for less than the cost of a game.It won't be long before the majority of games are on DVD only, so a DVD drive will be required for pc gaming.

[RtkBedivere]

I know quite a few games do give you the choice of buying the CD or DVD version. Not sure if this holds true with CA and M2TW though.

Im pretty sure there is no CD version of M2TW your gonna have to get the drive.

[pevergreen]

Its only DVD unless you download it.

Who wants to download 7 gigs?

[TevashSzat]

If you have an optimized cable line downloading at about 256kb/sec it will take you only about seven and a half hours to download 7 gigs. Not that long compared to trying to download a two hour movie with dial up two weeks of no telephone.

[Shahed]

Now that was an original problem, if I ever saw one.

7 GiGs is pretty feasible. I would assume a hardcore gaming/multimedia/net fan uses double that bandwidth in a month.

[sapi]

^^ Considering that both of those are illegal in the vast majority of circumstances, we'll leave that subject for now.
Oh, and your maths is wrong. 256kb/sec=64KB/sec. You can download 1mb in 16 seconds, so that's (60*60 / 16) 225mb/hour, meaning it'd take days to download m2tw, even if you were doing it off a server near you (which in america is likely considering that's where initivies such as D2D are based).

As for the core issue, dvd drives are dirt cheap, so just upgrade.

I know that i for one won't buy any games on CDs because they're such a pain to install, and i think that all games should be on dvds and that's certainly how things are going to be in the future... (as an aside, you could go to the computer with a dvd drive, copy the data off the disc, burn it to multiple cds, copy it to your computer, extract each cd so that you make up the dvd structure and run setup.exe to get it running)

EDIT: And sinan, you're right - i've used 8gb/month for ages without even trying on a very slow (512kb) connection (that's my limit so i can't go too much over thanks to shaping)

[Mooks]

Any idea where to upgrade my drive? Maybe a website online?

[Shahed]

Can't really help you there as I always buy hardware at a store. It also depends where you are. UK has some cheap sites IIRC, but one of the cheapest I ever saw was an Eastern Euro online retailer, can't remember the name. If I do I'll post again.

Sapi back in 2003 when I was really hardcore, 10GB a month was gone in a breeze on 512K, then I upgraded to 1MBit.

Now I'm on 10 MBit (though it's shared), and I only do about 3-5 GiGs a month. Much more this month as M2TW has made me do all kinds of research. Watching videos (youtube etc) on all kinds of history. Gaming can take up a lot of bandwidth unknowingly. Also SKYPE can use a lot when you use it as a primary phone and you're almost always on.

[Quillan]

Holy, if you're in the US, I use Newegg.com. They don't ship outside the country though, so if you live someplace else you'll need to find one. You should be able to pick up a DVD-ROM drive for under $20. That's what I paid for my last one. Burners cost a little more, but not a lot. You can get an 18X DVD+-RW for $30 or so.

[Mooks]

Great, just great. So I have to buy some hardware?

Both my games which I got for christmas, dont work on my computer. Glory Of the Roman Empire (New city building game) doesnt like my graphics card for some reason, and it crashes every 5 minutes of gameplay, EVEN THOUGH I have downloaded all the newest software and reduced all settings to the lowest possible. Now, I cant even play my mtw2 game.

....shit

(Rant over)

[sapi]

Can't really help you there as I always buy hardware at a store. It also depends where you are. UK has some cheap sites IIRC, but one of the cheapest I ever saw was an Eastern Euro online retailer, can't remember the name. If I do I'll post again.

Sapi back in 2003 when I was really hardcore, 10GB a month was gone in a breeze on 512K, then I upgraded to 1MBit.

Now I'm on 10 MBit (though it's shared), and I only do about 3-5 GiGs a month. Much more this month as M2TW has made me do all kinds of research. Watching videos (youtube etc) on all kinds of history. Gaming can take up a lot of bandwidth unknowingly. Also SKYPE can use a lot when you use it as a primary phone and you're almost always on.

I hate you :(

Avg. broadband speed in Australia is ~512kbs (you can get up to 1.5mbs on ADSL1 and 24mbs if you're lucky enough to have adsl2+ avaliable) and we pay a lot for what is to the rest of the world ridiculously slow speeds

@holybandit - you might as well upgrade to a DVD drive now as they're dirt cheap and useful for a variety of purposes...

[BlackAxe3001]

Yeah, 512 sucks, but what can you do... it beats dial-suck though... anything beats it.

[Musashi]

I have ten megabit downstream (Reliably), and no traffic cap... I've downloaded 8 gig files in a few hours more than once.

[Faenaris]

Ha, I call the pox on all of you 1mbit lucky people! I have a 512kb line AND a 10 GB download limit each month! I pay a LOT for it and the moment I cross the 10 GB threshold, my connection gets set back to 56K modem-style. Unless I fork out another 5€ for 5 GB (which I have to do 2 or 3 times a month), I'm stuck with a lousy connection. Having a brother playing WoW and its huge patches doesn't help either. And why are Anime Music Videos so damn addictive?
Bloody Belgium. In all the Neighbouring countries, there is no download limit. But ofcourse, in Belgium there is. God, I hate politicians. And sapi, I feel your pain, mate.

[sapi]

:P

The worst thing about how things are in australia is that the independant isps are only just winning a battle to get the govt. owned (until late this year) and sponsored telco/isp to market full speed adsl - you see, everyone could theoretically have 8mbs broadband (the network could take it) but a 1.5mbs limit was artificially imposed to (i'd cynically suggest) boost sales of their cable plans, which were 10mbs :P

That aside, has the op got any more questions or is this just going to drift off topic? :)

[Shahed]

Is this in all over OZ or Queensland only ?. I've been wanting to come down to Queensland (St.Lucia, Brisbane) and stay an year or so, but this is might be bad in some parts internetwise. I bet there's better things to do outdoors anyway.

OZ is big and low population density, unlike Europe, so I can see why there'd be less high speed lines. They'd be worried they would'nt get them sold.

Faenaris I'm also in Belgium, Antwerp. There is a cap on this line but it's a lot 60 GiGs I think, you should try on Telenet.be. It's not that expensive either.

All this pales in comparison to servers. Also in 2003, my online squadron for Lock On (www.lockon.ru) was running a community files/videos (gaming 100% legals of course) download server on a (IIRC) 500 or 1000 MBiT line 1500 GiGs limit per month. Beat this, that limit got used up in a week those times when hot new videos (using the game engine) were released by the community. I remember this guy made a DVD quality movie from the game 600Megs for that file....zip.... bandwidth gone in like 4 days, and we had to buy more not everyone had downloaded the file yet. Us being a prime hosting facility felt we should accomodate. That was expensive to run but we were piggybacking a professional server also used for company (i.e money making) purposes, which helped pay the gaming bills.

[sapi]

Sinan, i think you'll find that the problem has little to do with population density and more to do with the monopoly that Telstra has had on national internet for years - there's been little competition and so little innovation.

It's all changing though, with more regulations being imposed and rumours of QLD getting 100mbs fibre cable courtesy of the govt.

I'll believe it when i see it though.

Now, if the op doesn't have anything else to say, this thread's getting closed - it's gone just a little bit off topic ;)

[Faenaris]

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Faenaris I'm also in Belgium, Antwerp. There is a cap on this line but it's a lot 60 GiGs I think, you should try on Telenet.be. It's not that expensive either.
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Well, I'm using Belgacom and I have thought of upgrading to a larger bandwith. But it sucks eggs that in our country, one has a download-limit in the first place! Germany, France and Holland don't have a download limit IIRC.

And I'm not a huge fan of Telenet. We use telenet digital tv and the equipment broke. By the time someone came over to take a look, concluded we needed to send it back to manufactory and left, a couple of weeks passed. We're paying for something that we don't have at the moment, which is absurdly funny actually. Glad you are enjoying Telenet, but I'm only gonna use it when Belgacom starts asking absurd prices.