Yeh...i've noticed that my characters in italy pick up +x to personal security traits pronto :P
Yeh...i've noticed that my characters in italy pick up +x to personal security traits pronto :P
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The death of one man is a tragedy; the death of millions, a statistic -Stalin
We can categorically state that we have not released man-eating badgers into the area -UK military spokesman Major Mike Shearer
I wonder...was Italy REALLY that bad when it came to under-handed dealings of deaths?
I am playing as Milan right now and man the HRE will not f-off with their damn assassins and spies. It's quite annoying really. What I really would like to know is how they pump out spies with like 6 subterfuge each turn.Mine always have like 1 maybe 2 if I am lucky. Unrest is becoming a problem because I can't flush out their spies from my towns. Not to mention the HRE is sieging my cities, and Sicily is being gay by blockading all my ports and the Moors decided that my island holdings would be nice to have, so those are soon to be gone... Don't get me wrong Milan is fun, I love the challenge, its those damn spies and assassins that are killing me.
Maybe they have the Assassin's guild headquarters in one of their towns.Originally Posted by BlackAxe3001
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I had exactly the same problem, so I blew up his Taverns...
Found it quite easy to spy-spam his minor citys into revolt thereafter...
Is it sure the town-parked assasins work as counter-assasins too?
Originally Posted by Sir_Hawkwood
Why didn't I think that? I KNOW about sabatoge.
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Any campaign in which I'm not directly confronting it is a campaign where Milan is just this obscene powerhouse. France never runs roughshod over western Europe, it's dinky Milan.
For every shadow, no matter how deep, is threatened by morning light. - Izzi, The Fountain
I noticed the same thing in other campaigns that Milan was this powerhouse, so I decided to try them out myself. At first it's kind of hard to get going if you don't rush, but once you get a stable empire going you can go anywhere you want. Milan is a blast, you should play as them sometime. Their city troops are freaking awesome considering most factions require you to train their best troops from castles; Milan is almost the opposite. At the beginning their best troops seem to come from towns. Most definitely the castle troops are better, but not by much considering the time and money you have to put into the buildings you might as well train a few extra militia units. Just don't piss off too many factions at once without having a really good economy, because it will bite you in the ass later...Originally Posted by General Zhukov
Originally Posted by Sir_Hawkwood
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Oh yeah...it seems to obvious to figure it out myself...damn. Thanx for the advice! Poor Italian bastards, won't have a place to drink some good wine from now on...and when I blow up some of their taverns...they just will kill the assasins themselves. Hehehe. But actually it will be good for them not having everyone drunk all the time...hmmm...this is an issue...maybe if they are sober they won't just stand there gettiing killed by my archers and artillery...hmmmm
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Did it. Turned the towns of Milan into sabotage hell. That slowed the Assassins down! Plus with spies in them I can plan for the final Milan kill.Originally Posted by Sir_Hawkwood
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Good work Von Nanega!
Now, try and play the next few turns without talking to your screen in a fake and all so eviiil Saurauman accent...
A most difficult task, after so much sabotage...
Many thanks
SJH
BuHahahahahahahahaOriginally Posted by Sir_Hawkwood
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Google "Borgias" and read about some of their activities in the 14th & 15th centuries. A quite extraordinary story (even for the middle-ages).Originally Posted by Nutranurse
Go read The Prince, written by Machiavelli in the early 16th century, and see what he suggests that a ruler do.Originally Posted by Nutranurse
Age and treachery will defeat youth and skill every time.
I've been running into an en mass spy-a-thon with Milan and Venice (I'm the Moors). Every turn for a while consisted of me sitting there for 5 minutes watching their spies walk out of the city, walk back in, scribble stuff down on their little note book then drop the happiness of the settlements from green to red.....
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